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To JustBeachyNurse, Only rude when you started it. I asked nicely many time. Getting hold of nursing text in English- how do I do that please for free- I am not paid enough for that? There is very little of that in Japan. Apparently someone listed some particular to posts to look at but how do I find them all this bloated thread -another good reason to discourage people to not write garbage replies. I only asked for real life experiences not something from a textbook which may not exist.

Is English (technical) teacher a strange job description? I am not going to US or Canada probably ever- nothing I wrote indicated that I was. I have nothing to do with the hospital that is sending him overseas. I work for him alone so I am not in the middle of anything political. I don't remember one question about my role in this entire thread- not that I read all of it? Today I found out that he is being asked to read and understand the equivalent of 2 chapters in a high level technical medical textbook- one is Ethics in Pediatrics. One paragraph was on heliox treatment of asthma. Enough with your boring sarcasm- how about "Nurses lynched when discovered to not care about anyone"

People are missing that requested dialogue is only for teaching purposes only- it is not a script for him to any way use in practice. So you are saying you don't know what you say to student nurses or anyone else that is a legitimate shadow so I'll make something up that you can't manage to do. As far the purpose of this trip, I think its political and networking. As far as I can tell with some copied emails, the big boss knows some senior person in Sick Kids and wants everyone to know how connected he is. English is sexy in Japan so they don't take it seriously. However the nurse himself wants to gain something from the trip- maybe there are opportunities to have private chat with another nurse where an interpreter isn't available so this would help him then. Are people happy with having an arrogant nurse either to treat them or work with them- someone who acts like they know everyone's job? I have never met a constantly sarcastic nurse.

Fortunately the Japanese nurse can speak a few more words than five- probably a few thousand. Also most global technical medical English terms are the same in Japanese like one in Latin. Its his listening ability that pretty bad. If I speak at a normal pace, he can't understand some of my words. If spoken to slowly, he is fine. Who is going to slow down to a slow speaking pace for him?! Any accent will make it difficult for him. I also going to ask how he is going to handle the jet lag especially since he is flying economy. I am sorry that I missed that part in Sick Kids website about tours being done in English- I looked at the shadowing a doctor area and it didn't say anything useful. Its really not my problem whether he can really understand the Canadian and US nurses/doctors- I just need some content to teach him with.

I will avoid Georgia because they have sarcastic arrogant nurses- nursing is not your thing because you think you know everyone's job and yet can't ask intelligent questions- not one person asked me to re-express, explain or say me original OP a different way.

An interpreter is a type of translator who travels with someone to translate verbally as they go- most can translate to written words.

I could say that about many of the replies- they are are non-English as first language replies. You try your best to not understand.

I agree that he needs a medical translator and maybe that will be arranged for him (something that I can't do) but in the meantime I some content for the lessons that he is paying to teach him- I was hoping you could help get in the ballpark.

The answer to that question is that I was attached to a nurse high school in Japan to teach English. I was forced out after one term but I was trying hard to find relevant content at that time.

Yes- specific dialogue but you could just write down something you told your student nurse or new hireling.

So just answer follow this scenario and answer this question to the best of your ability- You are a nurse working in a hospital- preferably pediatrics. A foreign country nurse has pre-arranged with the head nurse to shadow you as you work. What do you say to direct him? (Don't look for what you think I really need to be told.)

Not a translator- just a technical English teacher- I am teaching only speaking and listening as he wants. He needs to be able understand what whoever is leading around the hospital otherwise he probably won't learn much. I am running out of content and would something to base the coming lesson- preferably relevant real spoken language- hence the questions. I am tired because I have a 2 month old who at times sleeps for 5 minutes after being put down on a bed. If you referring the hospital that he is going to, then its Sick Kids in Toronto Sickkids - hospital. What is these units you are referring to?

That first statement is a reply is a response to someone who asked is he ESL- I said yes. He did not ask Are you ESL? Is there a big difference between learning from a nurse and learning as a nurse from a nurse? If I was a nurse -it would be extremely simple for me to start with I am nurse which I never said and I "If you had a nurse who was not registered in your jurisdiction and thus could not have patient contact, how would you interact with them?"- is this not extremely simple and direct question to a Nurse's forum.

Thank you for much more relevant reply. Apparently the extra detail that was requested was confusing (and mainly irrelevant) but accurate. You are wrong- I am an English teacher who is being paid a low wage, not a nurse- the country is Canada. English is my first language. Currently I am using generic medical English sources. I had some prior contact with nurses. I don't know who he will meet. A big problem is the organization is through the head doctor, who is on first name basis with the hospital contact, is very busy and possible won't be of any help with the hospital. Especially given he is a doctor and has two doctors to assist- don't know their English level. Its Japan- little chance of anyone having high English ability in the hospital.

Why? If a nurse say coming from overseas for a conference wants to see your work in your hospital ( say its known for good for treating burns). How would show your work? Describe how you say to take them around- simple as that.

The trip is pre-agreed with much higher ups like the head doctor- its a party of 4 with 3 doctors visiting including the head of anesthesia. So you tell your boss that you think your job is a joke.

He is shadowing a RN to learn nursing.

Thank you for your reply. Yes it is English as second language. He is there for a visit for a few days to learn from a nurse's experience. I am looking for dialogue/ monologue that you have said or think you'd say. I am sorry I forgot to write you in the title- It should have been "What would you say or have said to a "nurse" shadowing you?" He has a month to learn to speak and listen at a decent level and he has only poor quality English learning from Japan's schools and only partly in his case- (Japan's English education is the worst of developed countries) and probably some decent English learnt from university.

If you had a nurse who was not registered in your jurisdiction and thus could not have patient contact, how would you interact with them? Preferably paediatric nursing but general ward is fine. I am English teacher and wish to put some real content into my lesson. Thanks in advance.

Can you suggest a sample interaction so I do a few of my own. The hospital is Saitama Children's Medical Centre which is a government hospital.

Here is CARE full nonhelpful reply: Hello again. We are funded by the Ontario government to work with IENs who become members of our bridge training program, so there's not too much enhanced material we can offer until that relationship exists. I assume you visited our website to find my name, but you could also consider a one-year subscription to CoursePark which has over 140 nursing courses recognized in Canada, Quebec and the U.S. for professional development, for an annual subscription of around $30: CoursePark Learning Network for Nurses All internationally educated nurses, hoping to become registered and practice nursing in Canada, are required to successfully complete either IELTS or CELBAN. You might consider directing your client to one of the IELTS or CELBAN preparatory classes. Additionally mastering the language of the workplace can also be a challenge for IENs. CARE Centre has developed a special online course, Language and Communication for Nurses Foundations, designed for nurses with an English language proficiency level of Canadian Language Benchmark 5 and 6. The course requires a minimum of 35 hours of independent study time. The course also helps to develop online learning proficiency and improve computer skills – must-have knowledge for the profession in Canada. Check out the following link for additional information regarding language and communication for nurses. LCN Foundations

He confirmed today that the hospital is paying for his trip, hotel stay and transportation. He had trouble with questions similar to contained in English for nursing/nurses - Common nursing vocabulary 1 - Vocabulary training test although he was very tired with 3 hours sleep from doing a night shift.

IEN is no longer run by CPAC rather CARE runs it- any suggestion as who to contact in CARE. Our Staff - CARE Centre for Internationally Educated Nurses

I'd assume so. I said semi-informal as it doesn't fit into a standard form.

I just noticed that but it only refers to physicians and surgeons- the only information link is the Physicians and Surgeons Board of Ontario. The other seven days are free- I will be helping him with general English. I know he will be staying at a hotel and doing tourist activities. No doubt the whole thing is semi-informal. I found the website for The Nurses Board of Ontario but not their respective practices for observer nurses- College of Nurses of Ontario