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Am i just a really inexperienced NICU nurse? We don't give half of those drugs at my level III facility.

Mine is actually tomorrow morning at 10am. Good luck to you!

Just got an interview as a new ASU grad, but I've heard a nasty little rumor that they have trouble paying their employees. Anyone know anything good or bad?

I would be cautious about spending that much money at a non-accredited for-profit school. I work for a very similar institution and a lot of the advisers will sign up just about anyone. We don't work on commission (we used to), but we have quotas we have to meet each quarter. (And actually the school I work for is CCNE accredited.) Basically, some advisers will paint a very pretty picture without giving all the details. For example, if you have a bachelors, you will not qualify for federal grants, and the maximum amount you can take out in federal loans in 57k total (including all the stafford student loans you took for your previous bachelors). Also, the maximum amount of federal stafford loans you can take out in one financial aid year is 12.5k. It may be a reasonably good program, but I have seen students run out of money before they finish ours, and that's the end of it....no more classes and a lot of debt. IF you have really good credit and/or really good cosigners, you may also be able to get private loans, but be wary of variable interest rates if you can and do. Lastly, there is absolutely no guarantee that the program will acquire an accreditation. If you have any desire to get a masters or doctorate, consider this because a lot of graduate programs will require that your BSN be from an accredited institution. I only mean to inform here because I would want someone to point these things out to me if I were applying. Maybe see what the advisers say on these points?

Just a heads up, you will want to turn you volunteer paperwork in early. I've been on a waiting list for over 6 months to volunteer at the hospital I want. And I have certifications and a B.S....

If you look at it strictly from a legal perspective, this doesn't carry much weight since it is currently illegal for any public authority to force a healthcare provider to assist in an abortion if it violates his or her religious beliefs or moral convictions.

:) No need for snarky comments. I will gladly post more information/clarification, but my two best sources are well-respected MDs who are doing international healthcare consulting in Columbia at the moment (returning next week I believe). I do know that this was addressed at the Catholic Medical Association 80th Annual Meeting just last month here in Phoenix.

I GOT IN!!! :) :) :) I have to let them know by Friday if I'm accepting (which I am), and we have our new student meeting next Wednesday! Things are moving soo quickly!

I think most new grads would be on board with that. It certainly beats not having a job at all. For-profit schools are a very different case indeed. IMO they are rarely, if ever, a good option for anyone going into nursing. (But that's a topic for another day!)

I wish it was as simple as this. Part of the new healthcare plan includes mandates that all hospitals (even those that are Catholic) perform so many abortions each year to qualify for federal funding. If all that actually comes into effect, those hospitals will either comply or be at serious risk of going out of business. This also will mean that hospitals will need nurses to perform those procedures. If this is something that matters to you, it's a great time to speak up and have a voice in the matter. As of now though, Catholic hospitals do not typically perform abortions.

You actually might be surprised to know that most schools lose money on nursing students. I know that at ASU, for example, the cost of graduating a nursing student is three to four times the cost of in-state tuition. State subsidies and differential tuition cover a portion of the remaining costs but not all of it. Think about it: nursing education is expensive. Not only do we require a ton of extra supplies, training, and arranged clinicals that a non-nursing major doesn't need, but state regulations on faculty to student ratios mean they can't just throw in 200-300 students in a class to compensate for expenses like they can in other degree programs. New nursing grads can't find jobs because hospitals can't afford to hire and train them not because there isn't a need for more nurses - ask any employed nurse about this, and you'll see what I mean. As it stands, schools (especially in Arizona) will not be able to meet the demands for replacement nurses in upcoming years since a large portion of our state's nurses are reaching retirement age. I know that's not the current picture for new grads, but it seems to be the direction in which we are headed. The problem is that while the demand for new nursing may increase, the hospitals' ability to hire them may not change proportionally.

I hope so! Letters go out this week, so I should know soon. It would be nice to know someone else who applied, but ASU didn't not advertise it very much. (It's still not even on the website.) It's a little crazy not knowing if I'm in with classes starting in just 6 weeks. I'm excited to find out though! =)

Haha let's just add a logic section to the NCLEX and be done with it. :)

I definitely see your point, but GCU is also a five semester program that requires additional prerequisites. While the tuition is high, it was nothing compared to the lost earning potential (for me) of being in a full time program for two years (not to mention the value of the experience I could gain in that time or the benefits of attending such a highly ranked program). I know everyone's needs are different, and if you can accomplish your goals through a different path with little to no debt, that's wonderful! :) Good luck to you!

Hello! Did anyone else apply for this program?