onaclearday thank you so much for helping, you just don't know how much that means to me because i always ask my friends about it and they don't have any idea of what its like and same with my parents who's not a nurse haha, well i guess that answers my long question hanging in my head that "why is it all of the Sales/Pharma employees in our hospital were all damn HOTTIES"haha, well at least now i know what its like, that if ever i choose this area i really have to stood up among these competitive people, thank you so much for your advice,what field are you in now?