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Each time I walked right into my supervisors office. Supervisor would tell her to stop, she'd still come over. My supervisor directed me to go to HR. I guess I don't understand why that would be a unwise decision? Or how that could possibly be detrimental for me? I did say I was an older nurse so everything was documented but I guess I don't understand who you think would be looking at the documentation and/or doing anything about it if not HR?

Thanks, that was great advice. :) I just wonder if the dust ever settles here or if that's just what they're used to now. But you've offered things to think about.

I started a job in July for a smaller company that has grown quickly from the Affordable Care Act. This company took over a new program January 2016 that a co-worker and then later I and another were part of. We are part of a small divided department. My supervisor started after me,another supervisor has been there awhile. She seemed nice enough at the beginning. Although, her staff complained about how "particular" she was regarding everything. She will/has occasionally came over to our group on an individual basis and tell us what we should be doing, or how we should be doing something, even though she is not our supervisor. She has said undermining statements like " what you're doing isn't correct, I've done this and this previously for such and such years and I know....." She didn't like the way an LPN on her staff, had a piece of paper in a folder one week so she had the LPN, walk over to the three hole punch and then demonstrated the "correct way" to paper punch. My supervisor has told this supervisor that if she has something to say to our group she needs to talk to our supervisor first. This supervisor has since, completely disregarded her instruction and has still come over to our space to give unsolicited advice/direction. My supervisor told her again, "stop going to my staff and come to me if you have a question/problem." Right after she left my supervisors room she came back into my personal space and proceeded to tell me how our group should be doing our work because basically she knows and we don't (I had a very good 6 month review). I went to HR and that man said "if she comes over to you again, walk her into your supervisors office." I also went to the director, with my supervisor, and we both told the director what was going on. She basically only offered that the program is new and that's why the department is trying to work on getting processes in place. I'm an older nurse working with older supervisors and I have never experienced anything like this in other work places. I enjoy what I'm doing but this work environment is toxic. I don't understand why it seems so difficult for some professionals to take direction and respect personal boundaries. Any suggestions other than the obvious, that I need to find a less dysfunctional employer?

I found a great job with a super nurse manager at a clinic, which was a branch of a bigger entity that I had previously worked at, 9 months ago. I love my patient population and my co-workers so I really believed I found my lifetime job. Another nurse mngr in the clinic seems to make it her mission to argue and debate issues rather than work through them as a team and as a result my nurse mngr left her position and I've had two interim nurse managers in this short time. The clinic changed some departments around and now I ended up with this nurse manager. I went from nurse managers who would help get answers/solutions for patient problems/processes that come up in the course of a day to a nurse mngr that will not get back to me. I am an RN that oversees a department that is driven by outdated protocols rather than providers and many of my inquiries are about what to do about a specific outdated protocol that needs to be addressed for the neeeds and/or safety of my patient population. There has been so much staff turnover that nursing directors are now coming once a week to figure out why our clinic can't keep nurses or nurse mngrs when so many staff know that it's this particular nurse mngr but they're afraid of her backlash so no one will speak up. This nurse mngr is impossible to work with and even the nurse openings for the Dept's she oversees don't get filled because she has such a bad reputation as a mngr. I have tried killing her with kindness. I've tried being assertive. I've tried pleading with her for the answers explaining in great detail why I need my questions answered and still the only time she seems to answer anything is to be negative or to tell me no to learning opportunities. I'm just crushed that I cannot find a solution on how to deal with this woman and how a job I loved has turned into a job I dread going to. She has only worked for the establishment for 3 years. She was walked out of her hospital job before this and I guess I just don't understand how she keeps her position as I watch this clinic lose so many caring nurses because she won't do her job. Anyone know how to deal with a difficult manager?

I'm glad you did and I definitely would if I was in my 20's. The way healthcare is going I don't think it will be long before they're wanting nurses to even have their Master's. They just don't have enough providers for the steadily increasing aging population.

Thanks for All of the real talk. I'm just tired as everyone is of constantly paying on student loans for schooling when the wages don't seem to keep up with the times in small towns, even if it's a big health system. The .25 per hour increase for the BSN isn't the best incentive for going back. But I've already checked into some schools. I'm thinking I'll start back in Aug.

What is WGU?

Feeling a little frustrated with my employer. It's a big employer with branches of health systems off of it. I got a job with the big employer at first, which asks for AD/DIP RN's to get their BSN within 6 yrs of employment or you can be "let go". I worked for them for 3 years before going to one of their " branch clinics" where their verbage was if you had your RN before 9/2013 you wouldn't have to have the BSN. I love my job but I'm 52 yo and I spoke with their HR lead and they just told me that because I transferred to a branch I am still held to the original 6 year plan. I asked, well if I quit and get rehired at a branch would I be grandfathered in that way then? HR said, no...everyone has to have their BSN by 2018 now. Yet their job postings do not say this. I have credits toward my BSN but I work in a clinic where my BSN will not help me financially but will cost plenty to get. I have 2 years from this summer to attain this but I'm really struggling with doing this at my age. There's such a nursing shortage even where I'm at and I can't believe they can do this. But HR said if I didn't have my BSN by 8/31/2018 my nursing employment would end. Is anyone else dealing with this? I'm just very frustrated at this point and am perplexed on my nursing future now.