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In other words, "diploma mills." Of course, it's all for profit. I'm from the state of California, I just came to realize that there were private schools that accept anyone who is able to pay tuition regardless of grades. I also came to notice that the majority of community colleges have a waiting list indoctrinated into their admissions. As long as you maintain at least a 2.0 GPA, isn't the waiting list a major flaw for being admitted? Then, obtaining good grades and work ethic wouldn't be essential at all. A student could simply just half ass their way through the courses and still get in I'm all for the point systems, but it seems that admittance to nursing schools are so easy nowadays as long as your in the right circumstance and situation. Trust me, I have seen some dumbass nursing students who are unable to multiply and it freaks me out. Some of them are unable to recall the basic characteristics of a cell!!! Just wondering, what do you think?

I'm double majoring in Accounting and Nursing. I don't go back to school until the 3rd of January and I've been considering dropping out of nursing school for quite some time. I live in the state of California where our state budget is rapidly declining due to illegal immigration, welfare, and other problems I don't really want to talk about. From what I can see, there's really no "nursing shortage." My mother (a physician) stated that hospitals would rather hire an RN with experience or even a foreign nurse with a work visa than train a new graduate nurse. This would save the hospital much more money. According to the Human Resources department at my hospital, they said that nursing schools in California are pumping out more graduates than there are jobs available. This will lead to a nursing inflation. I'm very interested and passionate about the career in Nursing, but if there's no job available at the end, what's the point? I know many nursing graduates who have been looking for jobs for the past two years and nothing has popped up. If I continue, where can I go to obtain experience? Out of state? Peace Corps? Military? I've been doing really well in my Accounting classes and I have a paid internship position at one of the Big Four Accounting firms. I know the people in the Human resources department of the company. My resume and references is pretty solid and impressive for an Accounting student. Yet, I have no work experience when it comes to health care, but the clinicals I've been doing. I don't have any references from any hospital workers. I'm in school 6 days out of the week and if I drop out of Nursing, my schedule will be quite lenient. I have no troubles of continuing nursing school, but its just the emplyment situation. I'm not seeking out no big sign-on bonus or a high desired salary, I just want to work with patients and learn from my experiences. Apologize if I sound pessimistic, but I just came from a group meeting comprised of economists and nurses who are stating that the economy will not jump back anytime soon, but several years. I just want the truth and nothing "sugarcoated." Thank you!

I'm currently in a 3-year BSN program. I also had the opportunity to enroll in the ADN route, but it seemed that the BSN offered more opportunity. As of right now, I'm very serious and have goals of traveling in the late future. My parents keep encouraging and striving me to travel abroad to other countries to learn about the culture/society/people and experience new things besides staying in Southern California my whole life. Now, I really want to travel throughout my life, instead of settling down. Looking at my options, I thought about perhaps signing up as an officer in the military or joining the Peace Corps following graduation. However, I have read in "RN" magazines that travel nurses have the opportunity to travel. Perceiving that it was too good to be true, there must be some catch. I asked a registered nurse at the hospital about the job and she told me that many people do not take the job because they have families to take care of back at home. What are the advantages/disadvantages of being a travel nurse? How much of Nursing experience will I have to acquire before I can begin applying? I don't really care about salary as long as it pays for my one bedroom flat/hostel during my stay. Another general question, should I begin traveling right now on my own? or should I just wait until graduation for the opportunity to travel? Everyone is giving me different opinions on the matter. Some are saying to travel NOW during my younger years or travel after I'm done with my education. I'm 22 years old and I feel that my younger years (18-22) that I let it past by me. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I don't think my school offers a study abroad program due to my major being Nursing instead of Business, Liberal Arts etc.

Good afternoon everyone, I have spoken to my mother (physician and has close associates in the Human Resources department) and she says that their isn't much openings/employment in her hospital. The charge nurse informed me that they want nurses with years of experience and that's where the nursing shortage falls under (not new grads!). So, how do I gain experience or employment? Am I supposed to take the lowest entry level job offered (I don't mind this at all) and work my way up? Do I begin at a nursing home? Where am I supposed to start? The human resources department director told me that that many people they hired from the past 10 years have been individuals from international countries. Thinking about this, doesn't this lead to brain drain? Brain drain is terminology used to describe emigration of individuals with a particular skill set and draining human capital from their native country. However, they do it for a better opportunity and economic purpose. I could make the argument that the American people are being enslaved by this; however, I don't have reason to complain. I'm not entitled to the job simply because I'm American, but I believe times were easier before. (70's-2000). This is my own personal opinion, so I hope I'm not bashed. I haven't passed the examination yet and still in school. What should I do to gain employment upon graduation? Should I get to know the human resource department? Set my clinicals at the very hospital I want to work for? Internship? I'm willing to work hard during school and outside of it. I don't care about salary or benefits, just want experience. The dean of nursing said when the economy starts picking up, they will begin hiring a boatload of nurses. My mother is trying to get me into medicine instead of nursing (I don't mind the additional schooling). The human resources director has said that she looks for people with EMT backgrounds, LVNs, and such. They also advised me not to volunteer as its not really seen as valuable experience. I don't know who to listen to, but I'm very afraid. I thought about going into the military or Peace Corps, but they demand a Bachelor's of Science degree. I'm obtainint an ADN which unfortunately is not attractable to many.

Hello everyone! I have recently been accepted to my local nursing school. I'm very excited and prepared to begin. However, I'm very nervous of what to expect. Some nursing students have stated that the curriculum that's presented in class is not overall difficult; however, they have said its the quantity of information being thrown out toward you. How can I better prepare myself for this transition? I don't start until Februry and I have 2 months to basically prepare. Should I work on effective study skills? Condition my brain to memorize efficiently? Intake Omega-3 fatty acid? Read on a constant basis? Exercise to increase circulation of blood throughout my body? Practice my writing skills? Speak articulately? HAHA, im only kidding, just throwing out some suggestions of my own. The first class is called Clinical Nursing Concepts. I have no idea what to expect. Any suggestions/advice/recommendation will be greatly appreciated! I thank all of you for your time for even reading this post!

I've recently been accepted to a non accredited NLN school; however, it's still accredited by the state board of nursing enabling them to grant RN licenses. Am I at a disadvantage if I attend this school in terms of employment opportunities and further education? Some students informed me that it's difficult to seek out employment if your school is non NLN accredited and that most universities look down on RN's coming out of non-NLN schools. Actually, what does it mean when your school is NLN accredited? What is it? Is it an organization? A networking system? A union/sponsor? I'm so confused and scared. I might not even attend the school anymore. It's a two year community college and not one of those for profit technical schools.

I was rejected by all BSN programs. To find out why I was rejected, they said my grades (4.0) and TEAs (98%) test were excellent; however, they said I failed my interview for all 5 schools! However, since most of the ADN programs do not require an interview, I got in most of them. I'm very fluent in english and I speak very articulate. I just don't know how I didn't get admitted into the BSN program. My main reason for entering nursing was to provide care for the less unfortunate overseas in the Peace Corps. I don't think the Peace Corps accepts associate degree graduates. But do they? Doesn't this delay my time to enter the Peace Corps since I have to do the ADN program (2 years) then the RN-BSN (2 years)? Because the BSN programs in my area are only 2 year trimester system. I'm only 19, please help! I feel so stupid by not transferring to a university, now people are going to perceive me as some dumb community college student. I may seem immature about this; however, my parents held me to a high standard of going to a university for my nursing degree. They don't really understand how the diploma/ADN/BSN situation works. Why is nursing such a brutal process of applying as opposed to engineering, accounting, and other fields!

I guess I gotta check tomorrow

Release of results - Nov. 8th In case there are troubles - Nov. 10 I spoke to the Dean, and that's the information they presented me with. Ain't that a long time to wait? Another week!??!?!

hseajin900 - for ucla, you need a year of general chem, 1st series of organic chem, physiology, anatomy, molecular biology (not microbiology), and a class called medical micro for nursing students (its only offered at la). the program altogether is five years (pre-requisites, general education, & nursing curriculum). you also need three letters of recommendation and a personal essay onto why you want to become a nurse. interview is not required at all anymore. they only admit students for the fall. i was admitted for the 10' fall; however, i wrote a petition towards the dean of my intentions of perhaps going into engineering. so they postponed my application for next fall. i've been a student at ucla for the past 2 years. i'm also thinking about getting into chemical engineering, i'm beginning to think that nursing is not the field for me anymore. as for people calling in and checking if their admitted, is this particularly true? i just called and they said they haven't released any information to anybody at all. i'm guessing that after the interviewing is done with the other students, it will be released. i'm just like yall, i just want to figure out if i'm accepted or rejected, so i could just move on. i understand your frustration because whether if your rejected or accepted seriously depends on what your next move or action is.

HAHA, true true. I'm sure you'll get in, 120 interviewed; 90 are accepted. You have a 75% probability of being admitted. That's a good shot. As well as being 25% rejected or on the alternate list. The alternate list should be scrapped off, it's basically almost the same as being rejected. Also, aren't you guys surprised of the competition in nursing programs now? I spoke to all sorts of RNs in the hospital and most of them barely had a 3.0 GPA while they were in school, but they went to school bacckkkk in the day (70's, 80's, 90's) and they said it was soo much easier on getting in. I wonder how the competition would look 20 years from now

She was already interviewed, but she can't speak english as well as others. So they rescheduled another interview (I believe 1 on 1). You guys are paranoid.

aerjas - i am actually inclined to agree with you that the admissions office shouldn't be allowed to notify a single clue or gyst to anyone of their current status unless all of the applicants are notified. however, i got to the bottom of things last week and actually spoke with one of the nursing faculty members. along with you guys, i was also expecting the decision to be made nov. 1st because that's what the faculty advised me during the interview. unfortunately, it has nothing to do with the super seniors or whatever you guys label them as. it has everything to do with the funding! of course, csulb received partial funding, but that money is not alloted towards the nursing program. it's for the entire campus including liberal arts, business, engineering, etc. they don't want to make anything official yet because their not sure if their going to have appropriate funds for this upcoming semester to accomodate the 90 students. anyways, one of my friends is being reinterviewed this week, so that should also explain the delay from the nov. 1st deadline. so, i think following this week, they will make a decision. i'm a true believer that the applicants are predetermined prior to the interview. the interview is to assess your communication and your ability to speak english. if it makes you guys feel any better, if i get admitted (i have a 10/10 score), i'm going to drop my standing because i got accepted to ucla's program. so, i hope it opens up a spot for one of you guys. did anyone of you guys apply elsewhere such as community colleges? csus? uc's? private? p.s. - the new nursing building looks amazing