Tina, Thank you for your reply. No, I have never lived in Warren, but I know that other Luomas, (Nor relation) reside in that are. There was one that I kept hearing about that was violent etc., and was sent to the supermax prison up in NE Ohio. But no, never been there. Luoma is actually a Finnish name. So are you going to become a legal Consultant? I have not figured out how to place these smiley icons in the right place. Anyway, I am doing the legal conbsult thing now but have no active cases. The last was in September 03 about a malpractice action in the Ohio Court of Cliams. The State prison system was using Baycol ( a cholesterol reducer) six months after it was revoked by the FDA. It was killing many people so taken off the market. The guy I testified for won. Anyway, contact me again. Jim namveteranTimes NewRomanxxx12