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Maybe instead of taking the approach that you are a nagging mother, you should try giving some professional advice and leave it up to your patient to take it or leave it. People might respect your advice more if given in that fashion. Don't think tha...

Nobody said that independent practice makes a nurse practitioner a physician.

I agree completely. There is simply no need for supervising or collaborating physicians. The scope of practice is what sets them limit. Physicians are only necessary when there needs to be a referral for specialty care for a patient.

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Nobody ever said this was limited to doctors. This is aimed at unethical behavior, regardless of what the profession.

You really have to be kidding, I am going to assume that you are. This is the same sort of stuff that doctors do when they disclose at the end of a study which drug company they took money from and expect us to believe that they are independent and u...

Unlimited Powers = General Welfare?? What kind of comparsion are you making here? I don't care what books you have read, it doesn't give you the authority to tell me what general welfare means. I didn't hear you answer to my question in this post eit...

Every last quote that you have attached here speaks in broad generality about "general welfare". My criticism was that you as well as the other people I have quoted like to determine for themselves what they think it means and then try to say that th...

What are you talking about? You don't think you are competent?

Personal attacks are not appreciated and from what I understand are not tolerated. There is no reason for you to question Ann's competency here. Let's just get down to business here and answer the question. Doctors are hostile towards the DNP and tow...

This is where it comes down to personal freedom. The fact that NPs are not allowed to practice autonomously is unconstitutional. You choose to have whoever you want to treat you and keep your beliefs to yourself. Stop trying to push your silly reserv...

Why are they not interchangeable? 1. The prevention, treatment, and management of illness and the preservation of mental and physical well-being. 2. The science of diagnosing, treating, or preventing disease and other damage to the body or mind. Hmmm...

Physicians are far from the gold standard in patient treatment. They are not well trained in a number of fields. Physicians know extremely little about a number of things. Despite all of their training, they know very little about nutrition. They are...

The top of the food chain? What exactly do you mean by that? And how do you figure that physicians will always be there. Please explain yourself and add some citations here. Don't you have to prove it if you make the claim? Isn't that the hallmark of...

Who is it that considers it to be so? Don't you need to have a citation for that? We certainly can't just take your word for it.

Are you joking? Show us the citation for where you came up with this garbage on the "hallmark of statistics and experimental design".

Where exactly did you learn to do your math anyway? Since when did 4 years equal three times 2-3 years? The other thing that is amazing is that you can't understand what a subset is. Have you ever heard of one? Physicians never should have been in co...

I don't consider them to be all that different. You are saying that they don't know enough, don't have enough intelligence, aren't smart enough. So I guess in the words of your friend wowza "no argument, argue semantics", right?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be insulting. My point is this, an NP does have enough training to be an autonomous generalist. You certainly do not have enough training to do your job autonomously. You need to clarify what you are talking about and don't GE...

Why don't you explain that process to us all in detail?

If you are bowing out, that wasn't very graceful. The field lends itself to general practice much better than it does to specialty practice. Specializing was a CLM. Most NPs are FNPs, so most of them are NOT specialty focused. I'm not mudslinging, ju...

Physicians are only trying to protect their gravy train at the expense of patients. They could care less about the well being of patients. Spare me the crap about life and death. Don't try to tell me that everything encountered in healthcare is a mat...

I think we have identified your first problem, NPs were meant to be generalist, not specialists. You are trying to function as a specialist, in which case, you do need supervision. You are trying to function outside of your scope of practice to begin...

The truth about NPs is that they can and do practice autonomously and they DON'T endanger their patients. Physicians are the ones who endanger patients by blocking their access to care from NPs. Nobody has threatened anyone. You are the one who is be...

So you are telling me that I have no idea and that NPs don't want to practice autonomously, but that NPs on this forum like to base their arguments on flawed studies? Which is it? Do they want to practice autonomously or not? You sound like you are a...