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Oh sure, its easy to cheat on Excelsior exams. All you have to do is buy those glasses that show an image of the answers a few inches in front of your eyes. ALL traditional nursing programs have an electronic detection system that make the use of these glasses impossible. Pearson does not have this detection system, because they don't care, so its very easy to cheat. It would not matter anyway since the people who work at the testing centers are always *wine:cheers:or :barf01:or high or can easily be bought off with a can of :spam:. So you see this proves that Excelsior is substandard because their tests are easily cheated on and any :monkeydance: who can operate a computer mouse can "pass" them. An that's just my . In case you have not figured it out by now I am joking. I am a happy, very employed, well payed graduate of Excelsior so please don't flame me.:chair:

OK this is very simple. They are a credit reporting agency and credit reporting agencies are easy to handle. 1. Get a copy of your report to see whats on it. You have a right to it under the FCRA. Its free if you are looking for work or have been denied work because of it. This applies to you. 2. If anything on the report is wrong you can dispute it. If it just says you were fired and not eligible for rehire this may be true but you can still dispute it. They have 30 days to verify the information or they must remove it. Any negative information that is harming you must still be proven and that must be done in court. What they are reporting may not be enough. They may need to be more specific. 3. Even if they verify it just sue them in small claims court, but make sure it is the justice court so the formal rules apply. You can do this yourself without a lawyer. Just study up on civil procedure and get some guidance. Chances are they will remove the item rather than fight it. I know what I am talking about. I sued over 60 creditors in court on my own and got my reports completely clean. 4. Under federal law they cannot even release the report to an employer unless you give them written permission. Don't give any future employer permission and if they insist then tell them up front what is on it and see if they care or not. Here is a link that spells out your rights. http://www.gp1.com/faq.asp#q6 You can get it fixed, just do some homework. If you just can't do it then hire a lawyer to do it for you. It should not cost much at all for what this is. There are even free legal clinics out there that help people who are down and out. Just some letters and threats of a lawsuit to both Group One and the employer should be enough to get them to back off. Trust me, it works.

That's a great idea for her. Have a friend call and ask for a reference. If they say anything other than name, rank, and serial number, so to speak, then go talk to a lawyer right away. You could end up getting two years salary out of it. No joke, it happens all the time. That is why labor lawyers exist.

Look at the job application. If it asks if you have ever been convicted you tell the truth and say no. If it asks if you have ever been arrested you tell the truth and say yes and then explain. There is always a section to write an explanation. Most employers only ask about convictions so your only real issue should be the no contest plead. Bottom line is every employer is different. One will say no way and the very next one can say welcome aboard. Job hunting is like hunting with a shot gun. Shoot fast and shoot often and eventually you will hit something.

The simple answer to this is to get on with your life and don't lay down and accept it. If you truly did not do anything wrong then you have to fight for your professional reputation. Go and apply elsewhere and if your reason for leaving your last job comes up tell them you left of your own accord because you did not feel it was a good fit for you, politics, dramatics, favoritism, etc. Most employers will not say why a former employee is no longer there, only that they used to work there and if they are eligible for rehire. They do this because there is too much liability and they can be sued. Unless you committed a proven criminal act on the job and were fired for that reason then anything else they say is purely opinion and conjecture and it cannot be used to dictate how the rest of your career goes. If they do not understand this then get a labor lawyer to write them a letter, $100, explaining your position and intentions if they continue to jeopardize your career. I promise you they will do nothing to stand in the way of you getting new employment. The fact that you were new there goes a long way. Most people don't know if they will be a good fit until they are working there for some time. Employers know this and they expect some people to leave a new job after a few months if they are not a good fit. Just make sure that that old job is not torpedoing you at every job interview and you will be fine. There are many, many nursing jobs out there don't forget that. In the mean time take advantage of your free time and take some certification classes that will help your career, ACLS, PALS, CEUs, etc. Make the most of it. The best revenge is finding a better job that pays more money and then emailing that nurse that fired you and "thanking" her for what she did.

I appreciate your response but I think you misunderstood my posting. I did not mean to imply traditional nursing students are less intelligent. That is a stereotype and I don't belive in stereotypes. What I was in fact saying is that if you are slower or not very motivated but you still want to be a nurse you must go to a traditional nursing school because those people would not make it through the Excelsior program. So traditional nursing schools are in fact where you find these people mixed in with the more motivated and more intelligent who are being forced to go slow for no other reason, OK. Second when I said they hold your hand, well, yes they do especially when you compare it side by side with Excelsior. Traditional schools have a limited number of seats and therefor a vested financial interest in making sure you pass and continue on to the next semester. Every time a nursing student drops out or fails out they loose that remaining revenue for that seat for the remainder of the program. So yes they will bend over backward and give chance after chance to pass before they give you the boot. So yes they hold your hand when compared to Excelsior. Third the NCLEX pass rates are well documented and Excelsior grads pass on the first attempt at or above the national average. You can find a link to this fact on the Excelsior web site.

You are right. This is basically a bill of attainder or ex post-facto law. Not sure if it applies to an entity in state government but it sure does to the federal government. What is clear is that if a person or group sued the BON for discrimination they would surely win. There is no basis in fact for their BON to deny EC grads the right to work in their state. This is nothing more than the state trying to shore up its state college tuition numbers and everyone knows it. Shame on Georgia and California for their blatant hypocrisy and their obvious poor judgment in shutting out such a large source of new nurses in an environment where nurses are badly needed and the problem is only getting worse.

That is strange that you were fired from a new job because they found out you were fired from an old job a few years ago just because you could not work the hours. Were you fired from this new job simply because you did not tell your new employer about the old job or is there something more serious on your GroupOne report than what you are letting on? If not then you need to get a copy of your report and verify the information is accurate. If not, you can challenge the information and get it changed, just like a credit report. If they are reporting false information on you then it is liable and you can sue them if they don't fix it and damages can be substantial since they are disrupting your employment. Don't just roll over and take it, fight back and clear your name and be sure to tell any future employers up front about what happened.

ok the answer to this is very simple. traditional nursing schools take two years to do the theory because they tell you it will take two years. you are going at their pace, not yours. not to mention the obvious fact that you are not going everyday for two years to nursing classes. first of all you go to a particular class two or three times each week for only one hour to one hour twenty minutes each class. then there are summer breaks, spring breaks, xmas and holiday breaks, and weekends, and the two/three week dead zone between semesters. in other words there is a lot of wasted time. they go slow like that because not everyone learns at the same pace. i am sorry to say it but some people are smart and learn quickly and some people just don't get it no matter how slow you go. luckily there is a program, excelsior, that allows people who are smart to go through at their own pace and not be shackled by the less intelligent that you typically find at traditional nursing schools. you will only make it through the excelsior program if you are 1. very smart and 2. very dedicated, because, unlike at traditional nursing schools, no one is there to hold your hand and gently walk you through the program. you either have what it takes to make it on your own or you don't. it is hilarious to me that graduates of traditional nursing programs are pointing to the quick completion time of the program as evidence that it is substandard when it is in fact that quick completion time that is proof of excelsior's higher quality graduates and superior, more modern and relevant nursing program. what you never hear any of these naysayers address is the fact that excelsior graduates pass the nclex at or above the national level. i would ask these "einstein's" who attended the old fashioned, very slow, take your time, hold your hand and walk you through kind of nursing schools, why did it take you 2 years, asn, or 4 years, bsn, to gain the same knowledge that i did in only 6 months, asn, and 1 year, bsn? seems to me that you guys are the ones who are intellectually challenged or should at least be demanding a refund from that old fashioned nursing school for unnecessarily wasting so many years of your life and taking so much of your money. just a thought. and as far as the clinicals go, excelsior only admits people to the program who have substantial, real world, hands on, get your hands bloody on a daily basis and get a paycheck at the end of the week for it, clinical experience already. in my case it was 13 years as a navy corpsman working in naval hospitals for 1000s of hours doing stuff that nurses in the civilian sector cannot even do. so i hope this answers your question and you are no longer confused about the true nature of the excelsior nursing program.