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very well said. for someone who hasn't even taken the exam yet, im impressed with the amount of research you've done going through the NCSBN and BRN. re: about the endorsement, i wasn't referring to get endorsed back into cali because the same rule would definitely apply. i was rather talking about the NLC and thinking about filing for endorsement within the states listed. yup, the majority of pinoys do choose cali because of those reasons. the only reason they have a high passing rate is because they're used to thinking analytically. most schools here are too lazy to actually teach something and end up being objective (i.e. identification type of questions testing our knowledge and comprehension) which, again, reflects how schools opt to hire novice nurses with minimal experience. that's why when i took the nclex, i went back to my books and forced myself to forget about everything they taught me in school. also, i think we have more clinical hours than them. but, then again, even if ours is almost doubled than theirs, we fail in comparison to the quality of clinical experience. about the rumors of them going to talk with the CA-BRN, you wish!!! lol.. they can't even handle their own internal and domestic problems, what more when they meddle with the affairs of another governing body?! even if some resolution was filed to the PNA to investigate these claims, it would still be futile to do so (they can't even handle our issues with having to pay hospitals for rendering our own professional services!!!). either way, they all should really look into this tho because if they really want to raise the bar and have us compete globally, they should start cleaning house from the ground - up. don't get me wrong, we have one of the best reputations (mainly because of our filipino traits of being friendly, polite, submissive, hospitable and most important of all is our ingenuity) but we shouldn't be trained to be contented with being a "bedside nurse" or a "physician's handmaid" while we compare our possible salary to the sleazy PHP8-15K we make here. that's what sets us apart from the rest. we're willing to do the dirty work while the others have their eyes set on managerial positions. now with the schools, everything is all about making an easy buck or two. until, they get rid of all of that (hopefully during this present administration but that's just wishful thinking), nursing programs will continue to pop up left and right. so i guess it just boils down to this then. we cant undo what has already been done. its either we all make a collective effort to try do something about it, or we could just drop everything else and forget about working in cali (unless you got the money to pay for school there or are considering a demotion to an lpn/lvn role which, by the way, is almost being wiped out due to the recession and overlapping functions among them and RNs and CNAs). or we could also wait for the day for nurses there to go on strike if the board does deny our renewal upon further re-evaluation.

lol..i've been doin some research and it seems that the excelsior and nightingale case, along with the turnover of the board, instigated this sudden change of policy. i just got my license but i'm planning to move elsewhere coz i think that if they do apply it to all phil-grads, then we all will be sinking in the same boat. its hard to bring this to the attention of the ched, prc, and any other body concerned because for sure, they will just shrug it off and advise us to apply elsewhere. plus, i haven't heard of a nursing student who completed his/her clinical cases by their 3rd year (ncm 101 and 102). so i guess that, reformulating all of our curricula to suit the needs of the CA-BRN would certainly be out of the question. what states have you inquired in to? i haven't gotten a chance to check out the boards individually to see the requirements and validity of licenses. but, i think that i'm gonna try to apply to any state within the scope of the NLC instead and apply for endorsement should i decide to go elsewhere. good luck to us all. **btw, i'm not a local RN. im guessing that most of you here have passed the NLE. are any of you enrolled in a review program or are you just studying on your own?

thanks for your POV..are you an RN as well? that's what i was thinking of initially but i doubt if they would overlook your first renewal and then get back at you on your second. i read an article somewhere that their main reason of doing this was to "protect the public" hence, being more rigid with their own policies. so, i fear that my renewal, before it expires in year-end of 2013, will be met in the same manner as those applying for their first time.

has anyone here renewed (or knows someone who did) their CA license and been subjected to the same requirement? i applied a couple years ago and have taken and passed the exam last march. i am an american citizen who finished my studies in the philippines and have yet gone back to practice. upon hearing this, i'm now worried that i, too, will be put under the same predicament. is there anyway out of this? thanks to all of you that will respond and good luck to us all......

thanks for the reply dude. i wasn't referrin to the NCLEX-RN, i was talkin about NC-CLEX (Nursing Center for Clinical Lab Experience). but thanks anyway

ive been reading some of the past comments about ncclex posted here (majority of which are outdated). im wonderin if anybody previously attended any of their seminars and actually used it (certificates and licenses) abroad. they say that they're accredited (05/10/2005-05/31/2011) and i'd like to know if it's legit or not. i'm about to leave for the states in about 6 months and i'm worried about the recession happenin there. i think that it would an advantage to undergo their trainings and be up-to-date, but if you say otherwise PLEASE LET ME KNOW. i'd also like to take up some units in MAN to kill the time..can anyone refer me to a good program? tnx

hey, just wonderin if you still took up the trainings offered by ncclex coz i'm planning to take it up as well.