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Calebmommy, It is nursing clinicals. He has a B average. He is in Illinois. What is a Provost?

I want to thank all of you. You have given many good suggestions. I appreciate it.

vito andolini i did want to thank you for your encouragement. i agree with you on several of the things you are saying.

Do you guys think he is just out of luck?

This lpn program is 2 years. But I highlited and copies the scholarships you are talking about and saved them for him to see. A local Hospital has promised him a full scholarship WHEN he gets in.

I talked to one of the Att. at Exceptional Nurses at site of Dr. Maheady(nice lady) she advise him to talk to a attorny in his area. Especially since the Dean of Nurse was aware he had ADD.

tothepointe ,Cynop, I understand that and if they had said that in the letter at least we would went "well ok" because it states in the catalague. But he was toldDean of the Nursing School why and she said to first "it isn't personal" and 2nd "based on statistics he didn't have a good chance at succeeding. Which is none of the reason we are talking about and not what the admissions form said? There seems to be a disparity between what the rules and the reasons why he is being told no.

jopacurn, discrimination is alive and well in america. one of the kids in high school said "he was a dumb chink" and at the time he was the only korean in the area. but there is more discrimination than you think. does he or i think it's that? well i hope not? he thinks it is because he works and that is what the dean of the nursing school told him. but that is not a legitimate reason to deny admission into clinicals. but who knows? i just know this is a legal nursing college and there must be rules and who is the boss? being evasive about these answer is rather alarming.

jopacurn, he has been retaking classes to bring his gpa up. but they are expensive and we like most have been hit by the economic times we are currently in. out of pocket expense become prohibitive to taking classes over also. who knows how things will go but if he has met the requirements than it is undue duress to refuse him and if he hasn't this accreditated college ,only reasonable , should tell him why. how can he improve on something if the college won't say what the problem is. besides aren't you guys have procedures and policy in place. i mean otherwise they could base the decesiions on any kind of nonsense. i mean arbitary or capricous ? they can't welll your hair is to curly and thats good enough? it must be a legitamate accrediate school right?

MS.RN, I think he has applied to a 4 year program but the cost is so prohibited and we are not the only struggling in todays economy. He has met the GPA for the clinicals or I am guessing they would sighted that as the reason why he was not accepted in the letter. He works in the medical profession as a CNA and has for 3 years. He works with Alzheimer patients. The RN's who he works with are 2 of his letters of recommendation for Clinincals.

Silverdragon, I appreciate what you are saying but I am not a position to move right now & economy and all being what it is. Gosh I hope that is not the only answer.

Alleyb. I believe out of that whole class of clinicals there was only 3 males. It was a predominately female clinicals class.

Alleyb, He said "their were only 2 others " at that time and one of them was ask to washed out(I think that is the termonology) . He said " that male went up and was pretty vocal to the Dean of the nursing school" . But what a good question. I think the ratio of male to female acceptees is very low for the males.

Trying to be admitted. I agree with you that me saying to much would probaly not be helpfull. I had hoped though by the time he got home from work maybe I would have some suggestions for him. I agree with you also this statistics is not a reasonable answer. I guess I expected it to be at least a reason why. I can't think holding him working against him when he has already proven he can succeed and work, fair. I can't understand who the supervisor is. I don't even know the chain command to refer him to since the Ass. Dean of the whole college was not forthcoming about what the chain of command is. But I think in order to turn someone down there must some guenuine reason and not just arbitary? This is very confusing and he is very young and he has worked so hard! If work is it , well it seems to me other nurses worked to get through nursing school. ONe of his nursing instructors who is an RN said she did. So that answer is not logical to me. I would think holding a full academic load and working full time and achieving a degree would prove he could succeed. None of it makes sense to me? I don't even know the right questions to ask to understand what is the deal here?

Thank you I really apprecaite that. I am having a little trouble navigating and hope this isn't to much trouble.

Recently my son was turned down(2nd time) for clinical in LPN nursing for the Nursing. He has fulfilled all the requirements to be eligible for nursing clinical. He has a Associates Degree from the college. He has and does work fulltime in the medical profession for the last 3 years as a CNA. His letters of recommendations for the clinical are from The Dean Of the Liberal Arts Department, A prominent attorney in the this area, as well as his supervisor where he works , several nurses and Team leader from previous jobs . He carries a B average. He has had support from the colleges student services support for his Attention Deficit Disorder and is consider a success story by them. He is also part Korean. The head of the nursing said to me "she grave doubts he would make it through clinical if he worked" that was 2 years go. So he spent his summer writing care plans for this Dean on his own time trying to improve his chance of being accepted the 2nd time. At the conclusion of this the Dean of the nursing school even told him his care plans were good. However he recently took Anatomy II over ,even though received a C on the first grade, and received a B. Than he replied for clinical and received a letter turning him down for clinical before his grade was even posted. The letter said to the effect "that he was not a good candidate to succeed" despite a college degree and working 3 years in the medical field as well as some very strong recommendation sources ie Dean of Liberal Arts, Prominent Attorney, Other Nurses and Supervisor from his medical job. I encouraged him to speak to the Dean of the campus. At which he explained why he thought it didn't seem fair and he was concerned. The Dean told him that because the Dean was a Dean of the Nursing College she was not his subordinate and he could really do anything about her decisions although he understood why my son was concerned. He went back and ask again the Dean of the Nursing School why and she said to first "it isn't personal" and 2nd "based on statistics he didn't have a good chance at succeeding" I am unclear what that means? I assume there is specific criteria for being eligible for an accredited nursing school? I don't think it would be based on arbitrary nor capricious guidelines or opinion of one person? I am confused by this especially since he has met all the criteria of the colleges requirements. So any advice you could give would be so appreciated. We are not a wealthy family and have used grants as well as personal financial resources to advance him. I am single parent and worked in manufacturing for 15 years until recent lay offs so we are running out of resources to make this very hard young man have this chance. 1. If the Ass Dean of the College is not the supervisor of the Dean of the nursing school college who is her supervisor? 2. Are there Federal and State requirements to be a Nursing School that is part of a college? 3. I am sure this school Federal and State monies are they than subject to federal and State rules? Being that he has fulfilled his requirements and has a college degree and has such good recommendations and has fullfilled the GPA requirements for clinical than I cannot understand why he is not being allowed into clinical? Those were some of the questions. I apologize for being long winded but I tried to remember everything. I appreciate your time in this. He of course is very discouraged. Plus this particular Dean also is on the board of the only other Nursing school in this town so I am a little concerned. Anything you could suggest would be very appreciated . Thank you again.

Recently my son was turned down(2nd time) for clinical in LPN nursing for the Nursing. He has fulfilled all the requirements to be eligible for nursing clinical. He has a Associates Degree from the college. He has and does work fulltime in the medical profession for the last 3 years as a CNA. His letters of recommendations for the clinical are from The Dean Of the Liberal Arts Department, A prominent attorney in the this area, as well as his supervisor where he works , several nurses and Team leader from previous jobs . He carries a B average. He has had support from the colleges student services support for his Attention Deficit Disorder and is consider a success story by them. He is also part Korean. The head of the nursing said to me "she grave doubts he would make it through clinical if he worked" that was 2 years go. So he spent his summer writing care plans for this Dean on his own time trying to improve his chance of being accepted the 2nd time. At the conclusion of this the Dean of the nursing school even told him his care plans were good. However he recently took Anatomy II over ,even though received a C on the first grade, and received a B. Than he replied for clinical and received a letter turning him down for clinical before his grade was even posted. The letter said to the effect "that he was not a good candidate to succeed" despite a college degree and working 3 years in the medical field as well as some very strong recommendation sources ie Dean of Liberal Arts, Prominent Attorney, Other Nurses and Supervisor from his medical job. I encouraged him to speak to the Dean of the campus. At which he explained why he thought it didn't seem fair and he was concerned. The Dean told him that because the Dean was a Dean of the Nursing College she was not his subordinate and he could really do anything about her decisions although he understood why my son was concerned. He went back and ask again the Dean of the Nursing School why and she said to first "it isn't personal" and 2nd "based on statistics he didn't have a good chance at succeeding" I am unclear what that means? I assume there is specific criteria for being eligible for an accredited nursing school? I don't think it would be based on arbitrary nor capricious guidelines or opinion of one person? I am confused by this especially since he has met all the criteria of the colleges requirements. So any advice you could give would be so appreciated. We are not a wealthy family and have used grants as well as personal financial resources to advance him. I am single parent and worked in manufacturing for 15 years until recent lay offs so we are running out of resources to make this very hard young man have this chance. 1. If the Ass Dean of the College is not the supervisor of the Dean of the nursing school college who is her supervisor? 2. Are there Federal and State requirements to be a Nursing School that is part of a college? 3. I am sure this school Federal and State monies are they than subject to federal and State rules? Being that he has fulfilled his requirements and has a college degree and has such good recommendations and has fullfilled the GPA requirements for clinical than I cannot understand why he is not being allowed into clinical? Those were some of the questions. I apologize for being long winded but I tried to remember everything. I appreciate your time in this. He of course is very discouraged. Plus this particular Dean also is on the board of the only other Nursing school in this town so I am a little concerned. Anything you could suggest would be very appreciated . Thank you again.

Recently my son was turned down(2nd time) for clinical in LPN nursing for the Nursing. He has fulfilled all the requirements to be eligible for nursing clinical. He has a Associates Degree from the college. He has and does work fulltime in the medical profession for the last 3 years as a CNA. His letters of recommendations for the clinical are from The Dean Of the Liberal Arts Department, A prominent attorney in the this area, as well as his supervisor where he works , several nurses and Team leader from previous jobs . He carries a B average. He has had support from the colleges student services support for his Attention Deficit Disorder and is consider a success story by them. He is also part Korean. The head of the nursing said to me "she grave doubts he would make it through clinical if he worked" that was 2 years go. So he spent his summer writing care plans for this Dean on his own time trying to improve his chance of being accepted the 2nd time. At the conclusion of this the Dean of the nursing school even told him his care plans were good. However he recently took Anatomy II over ,even though received a C on the first grade, and received a B. Than he replied for clinical and received a letter turning him down for clinical before his grade was even posted. The letter said to the effect "that he was not a good candidate to succeed" despite a college degree and working 3 years in the medical field as well as some very strong recommendation sources ie Dean of Liberal Arts, Prominent Attorney, Other Nurses and Supervisor from his medical job. I encouraged him to speak to the Dean of the campus. At which he explained why he thought it didn't seem fair and he was concerned. The Dean told him that because the Dean was a Dean of the Nursing College she was not his subordinate and he could really do anything about her decisions although he understood why my son was concerned. He went back and ask again the Dean of the Nursing School why and she said to first "it isn't personal" and 2nd "based on statistics he didn't have a good chance at succeeding" I am unclear what that means? I assume there is specific criteria for being eligible for an accredited nursing school? I don't think it would be based on arbitrary nor capricious guidelines or opinion of one person? I am confused by this especially since he has met all the criteria of the colleges requirements. So any advice you could give would be so appreciated. We are not a wealthy family and have used grants as well as personal financial resources to advance him. I am single parent and worked in manufacturing for 15 years until recent lay offs so we are running out of resources to make this very hard young man have this chance. 1. If the Ass Dean of the College is not the supervisor of the Dean of the nursing school college who is her supervisor? 2. Are there Federal and State requirements to be a Nursing School that is part of a college? 3. I am sure this school Federal and State monies are they than subject to federal and State rules? Being that he has fulfilled his requirements and has a college degree and has such good recommendations and has fullfilled the GPA requirements for clinical than I cannot understand why he is not being allowed into clinical? Those were some of the questions. I apologize for being long winded but I tried to remember everything. I appreciate your time in this. He of course is very discouraged. Plus this particular Dean also is on the board of the only other Nursing school in this town so I am a little concerned. Anything you could suggest would be very appreciated . Thank you again.