I have been in the OR 15 years and I think I have only seen a couple of cases where counting was an issue at the start. During dayshift we have a ton of help of course, but nights and weekends can be the problems. My main issue is I serve on the Unit Council and we are trying to fix some boo-boos of the past, and prevent anything bad from hopefully happening in the future. We are lucky in the sense that when the count sheet has been wrong it's been caught ahead of time, but some staff feel that if the sheet is signed by either 2 RNs an RN and LPN or an RN and a ORT, that should be the first count, and I am from the old school where you always make sure yourself. thanks again Chaz