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WOW. I had no idea these type of program existed. I'm seriously going to look into these programs. You might have saved me many years of student loan debt. I already have a biology degree and healthcare work experience. I'm seriously thinking about becoming a NP and these programs would save a lot of heart ache. :typing

Hello Everyone, What services do you all feel that are you missing that you could use that could be utilized via the Internet? What would you like to have develop that would help you with your daily job? Thank you for your time.

There isn't any job out there that a person would become rich with when you look at the wage per hour worked. Doctors are at the top of all professionals for wage per hour earned. The big money comes with fringe benefits, business deals, investments and others alike. A little over 90% of our economy is driven by those with the most money. The more money the rich spend, the better the GDP is. The less money the rich spend, the weaker the GDP is. When the rich don't spend, it puts more pressure on the middle class more so then the poorest people of our country. For instance, it costs over 1 million dollars a day to run a single oil rig.

You basically described exactly what I'm refering to for the nursing salary.

I think we can all agree with what you are saying. A young person right out of nursing school (be it tech school or from a university) needs to be smart with how they start their working life (its a different story for the nontraditional students). Purchasing that $35,000+ car, purchasing a WHOLE new wardrobe on a credit card, going out to eat every night and going out to party every weekend, purchasing a big screen tv, and getting a house that is more then 20% of your take home pay all adds up (the older folks know what I'm talking about). Once you get married and start a family, your expenses increase a lot. You can get all of the above if you do it in a smart way. Take about 5% of your pay check and put it in a savings account each month to start purchasing some new clothes, a good matress, etc, etc. Starting a career making around $25 an hour isn't bad. It isn't great, but it isn't bad. The best investment a nurse can make is a good pair of shoes.

I live in Wisconsin. Even with the numbers that I shared, the couple would be above the median income level. There are plenty of side jobs that a nurse could do to increase their income level to help pay for bills. I often hear of job ads looking for home based nurses for night calls, home based case management nurses, and others similar jobs. So the opportunity is out there to earn more if one needs to. The lowest a nurse should make is around $40,000. The average starting salary should be closer to $50,000 - $55,000. A nurse with about 10 years of experience should be making around $65,000. A nurse with 20 years of experience should be making close to 6 figures because of the great knowledge and experience they bring. You can put a lot of trust in a nurse with 20 years of experience.

Exactly. My first job after high school was working at a feed mill. I made $9 an hour. My second job was working at a scissors factory. I made $12 an hour. After four months on the job, the plant cut down to only 1st shift. So I lost my job. My third job was working at another factory. I made $7.50. My fourth job was working at another factor making walls for houses. I was paid $10 an hour. My fith job was working in the hospital setting as a patient transporter for three years (I did an internship while in college..for my fourth year of experience). I was paid $9.50 an hour. My first job in college was working as a lab assistant. I was paid $7.50 an hour. My second job while in college was working as a campus parking attendent. I was paid $7.00 an hour. My third job in college was working as a teaching assistant. I was paid $8 an hour. When I was getting ready to graduate last May, I applied to well over 300 jobs. I know that I interviewed for over 25 jobs. 18 out of the 25 jobs that I interviewed for would not offer more then $13 an hour (even with my college degree). I was lucky to get the job I even have now. If I didn't have that hospital experience, I would be stuck making $13 an hour with my college degree. Twenty to twenty seven dollars an hour starting is a good starting salary. 20 per hour would be $20 x 40 hours per week x 52 weeks (assuming two weeks of paid vacation) = $41,600. That is a good salary to start a career with (the upswing is the problem....but you can do something about that if you want----further education, management, etc, etc, etc). If you are married and your significant other makes at least $25,000 a year, that would give you a yearly salary of $66,600.

Driving a bently, living on the beach, having a house party every weekend (need to keep my social repuatation up to par), purhasing a new big screen tv every month, taking exotic vacations, and eating out every night. or Have to live in San Francisco, or New York, or Boston, or Chicago and spend $400 a month just to park my car at my apartment that costs $1,400+ dollars a month, while also driving a bently, and taking exotic vacations. For me, living comfortable is the following: Have a car that gets you to point A to point B, has good gas mileage, a cheap house (or apartment), eating out once or twice a month, having a backyard to grow food and have flowers, just having tv and Internet, having a health family relationship, and being able to watch football.

So you are saying that experienced nurses should make a 6 figure income? Why? Seriously, why do you think nurses should be paid so much? Some doctors don't even make that much. And nurses can't do the work that they do (the careers in bold). Drive across a bridge, drive on a road, take a look at your car engine, take a look at a tractor, etc, etc, those are all products of an engineer. Go to court and try to defend a person on trial for murder or some other crime that they didn't commit. Go and try to build all of the materials that you use as a nurse. Those products have to be developed by somebody. A chemist has a role in developing most of the products that you use on a daily basis. Criminals would not be put in jail....leads to an increase in crime and saftey to the American people. A 6 figure salary for a tech degree or a BS in nursing? If a nurse wants to make such a huge salary, go become a NP.

Yes, be happy you have a good job, have job security, saftey (for the most part), get paid a good wage, and so many other good factors for being a nurse. I've seen people that I know that complain about how much they make no matter what the income level is. My brother makes $75,000 a year and complains left and right about having to work weekend nights (3rd shift), and work 6 10 hour shifts a week. I no longer listen to him when he complains about his job. I'm not a nurse, as noted in my post above, but I still live like a college student even though I could own a house. Every dollar made after your basic needs are meet becomes less of a value to a person. If you have 150 dollars extra to spend at the end of the month as a college student, you tend to spend it. You then get older and accumulate more bills. A person then starts to complain about how they don't make enough to get by with the new bills. Two years later the same person has 300 dollars extra each month to spend on whatever they please. They then add more bills. They then complain about how they can't afford to pay their bills. Its a cycle of repeat and rinse. Everyone tends to compare themself to others. It is natural to do so. I don't get where people say $20-$27 an hour starting is not good pay. Please. That is very good pay. Why do people even care to be rich? If you become rich, just about every single person accumulates more expenses and drains the extra income anyways. My yearly expenses is expected to be $16,312 my first 12 months out of college. With the salary that I have that I listed in another post above, I could go and purchase a brand new car, get a house, and a lot of other stuff, but now way am I going to do so. Most people I graduated with that I was friends with got new cars. I still drive the same used 2001 Ford Focus that I was driving before college. I hope to drive this car for another good decade. A good nursing friend that I went to college with got a starting salary of $27.50 per hour. This person went out and bought a whole new wardrobe, brand new car (value of $35,000+), goes out every weekend, and travels all of the time when she can. What was wrong with the clothes and car she had before? I haven't bought a new pair of shoes, pants, shirt, or sweater for years.

Stay away from the MW, NW, and NE then. You won't be able to escape the extreme heat in the summer if you want to escape the snow. For cost of living, most places in the south are good for the cost of living.

One of the great things about a nursing career is the flexibility. You can go from one job to another. I argue that the starting salary for nursing is not bad at all (the second highest average starting salaries for people with a BS degree). I think the starting salary for nusring is very good. Part of the problem with the nursing salary is the upswing in salary, not the starting salary. Your salary potential is limited if you don't move to a new position that would lead to a higher salary. But that is no different then any other career out there (besides atheletics and such). I worked in a hospital for four years, so I know the working envrionment nurses have to deal with. For people with a BS degree, the only average starting salary that is higher then nurses is engineering. So you don't have much room for arguement. There are some tech degrees that allow a person can start at $65,000+ a year. That is what a dental hygienst (spelling ?) can make. RT's also have a good starting salary. But they also have no upswing in salary potential. The people you see driving expensive cars are either, in major debt, invested well (got lucky in most cases), graduated college with no debt, car hobbyiest (spelling ?), 45 or more years of age, paid their due, or chose a career that pays really good, or took a really big risk for their career choice (one of the high risk high reward careers).

But you also get a bigger check at the end of the year and your end net worth is still higher. The more dollar you make per hour, the more dollar goes towards taxes. If you make 1 dollar an hour, a certain percentage will go to taxes. If you make 2 dollars an hour, a certain percentage will go to taxes. Your net gain in income is still higher with the 2 dollars then the 1 dollar. The difference between a $12 an hour job compared to a $13 an hour job before taxes is only $2,080. Sure that is not much of a difference after taxes, but it is still a higher net gain in income.

No, it is not really bad. Really bad is making $7 an hour for a full-time job. For a person with a BS degree in any field, $11 an hour is bad. I work as a clinical research coordinator making $32,000 a year. I also work another job (from home) making $480 a week. I also work another job from home where I make $1,500 a month. I usually work around 70 hours a week. It sounds like I don't have any free time, but I do. I'm on pace to make $74,960 my first 12 months out of college with only a BS degree in biology. As you can see, my income is high because I work outside of my full-time day job. I'm a Health Search Expert for my home based jobs. Most people that I graduated with that have a BS degree in biology are making $12 an hour. Most people that I know that I graduated with that have a liberal arts degree are still working the same job they worked while in college because they can't get jobs. So stop complaining about only making around $20 an hour right out of tech school or university. If you are making the same wage 35 years from now, then that is your own mistake. Sure you salary won't rise if you don't move up (or move from one floor to another that requires more skill and responsibility).

Commercial fisherman - As much as $20,000/week Once the fish die, or there are no longer fish in your area, you no longer have a job. You also have to take into account costs. Oil rig worker - $420/day A slip of the chain can kill you! Wildland Firefighter - $90,000 You have no home during the fire season. Go and tell your loved one to fight a wildfire and get back to the rest of us for how your loved one enjoyed the work. Security Specialist - $120,000/year This isn't an entry level job. Nursing is an entry level job.