ouf !!!!! I made it ..it took me a long time to find this site and all the answers .. thanks to all who answersed ...it is a great help. could you give me dates please ? i would be greatfull. I suspect that all those cardboard hats dated from the 80's .what happen to the really old nurses -like me with around 50years of nursing here and there-? may be they are like me ,stugling with the computer? keep the good work up thanks again ... next time i will tell you what I will do with all thoe infos Fleury.