PixieThunder

Hi all, Was just wondering what everyone thought of the prospect of the nursing profession going completely degree led by 2010... Do u think that the quality of bedside care will suffer?

Thanks everyone, the opinions that have been given are great, and have helped loads. I doubt there will ever be a clear cut right and wrong to this debate....suppose thats why its a debate! The NHS, as with the the rest of this country, appear to be heading down the road of destruction in terms of political correctness going mad. It may be that the NHS chooses not to treat such patients as those mentioned above, because they are not seen as contributing to there own well being, and bring on circumstances themselves and not seen as in need of NHS help as much as illegal immigrants or those on the 'minority' list that would possibly harm the reputation of the organisation if refused operations or treatment. I really dont know. Sometimes I dont even know where my own heart lies in such a sensitive subject! It feels that we are in a world that we can poke fun at (or refuse operations) to those who apparently 'choose' to be in a situation(smokers and the obese), but cannot touch those who are deemed to be in a situation due to religon, race, sexuality, political circumstances or the such like....surely the same rules should apply to all?

It's just cos thats the subject matters I was given, others potential student were given other topics and its just to spark debate. It is not a witch hunt against Obese individuals or smokers.

I know its very controversial subject, and I am glad that it is bringing lots of debate and good answers as I had hoped. I read in a sunday 'rag' newspaper that the NHS is going to force patients to slim down before being allowed routine operations and will base treatment on their BMI. I dont know how true or how reliable their source is, or even if such a newspaper should ever be taken as the truth, but it does raise interesting points. As previous replies have said, I agree that not everyone should be judged in the same way, and that each individual should be on a case by case scenerio. However, individuals should be given advice before operations are undertaken, and if they are not intent on changing their lifestyle and making the more healthier choices in life then maybe they shouldn't be given priority on things, but not discounted altogether. I have so many views on this its sooo hard to get them all down!

Hi All....I have a discussion group coming up and one our subjects is: Should obese adults or individuals who smoke have healthcare withdrawn until they redress their lifestyle choice? I have lots of my own opinions and have researched this thoroughly on the net, I just thought I would post it on here and see what others thoughts were, as in britain they're so many initiatives and programs in place for healthier lifestyles etc, but if people dont start taking these on board is it acceptable to expect the NHS to pick up the bill? Anyway, hope u guys have some good opinions about this.