thank you, thank you, thank you for the support and encouragement. i think i got too ambition and relied more on notes i'd bought, then reading more thru the text books. i've now bought older editions of the books off amazon.com and realized that i'm gonna have to dig deeper, and make sure i really know my stuff. i'm gonna try the practice exams. also guerda math wasnt the worst, it was only coulple IV conversions, it was knowing the nursing process well, that got me, i kept thinking hey i'm a nurse i know this stuff how hard can it be. also guerda if u need a buddy to go thru this with u i'd be happy too, i could use some more good friends. ty again eric and antinurse.