I agree it depends on what some nurses are willing to put up with. I, for example, used to work on a medical-surgical floor where the patient/nurse ratio wasn't bad (believe it or not), lots of technology, and pretty good pay. The reason I ended up leaving is because the environment SUCKED!! The manager could NOT give positive reinforcement if it were written on all her employee's foreheads. We could do nothing right by this woman. Consequently many people quit and administration still didn't get the hint because she had friends "high up." Now, I work in an overloaded ER where ratios....well...what ratios? The pay ain't that great and lets just say that police stay camped out there...I absolutely LOVE IT!!! I have never had such support from my co-workers and managers (and honestly administrators)!!!