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Our hospital has a policy where they can call you and tell you that you are "pushed back" until 12. Basically you are at their beck and call for 6 hours of your day, with no pay. They can call you at any given hour until until that 12 and you are expected to come in as soon as possible from that phone call. You can't go anywhere, do anything, because you are still responsible for coming in if they were to call WITH NO PAY. It is actually a policy written in the handbook so you can't dispute it. When asked why we are not getting paid, we are told we are not "on call" we are pushed back and still on the schedule. My question is, where can I go to find out if this is ethical and within the law? I know it might varies within states, but couldnt find the right source.

I think you should call HR and they can fill you in about salary info. I'm going to guess that you're experienced, so it varies. Right now, the job market in New Orleans is VERY tight. A lot of hospitals are experiencing budget cuts/ hiring freezes. You might be able to get a PRN job though.

Age does not have anything to do with getting in. They look mainly at your GPA for the prereqs, your score for your entrance test, and your application essay. Having experience may also be a plus, although most people in my class did not. There were quite a few people in my class who got in at 19/20 and graduated at 22/23.

I believe that the SON and the state have made some sort of agreement to up their admission in exchange for funding...there is actually more students that are getting in. There is definitely a shortage of instructors. I don't think there is a shortage of nurses. I think that there is a shortage of nurses that wants to work on the floor when they can make more money and less stress doing agency, travel, home health..etc...

yes, you can make that much with the WOW program (work on weekend) at childrens..i believe its 44 for night shift and 41 for days but you need 2 years of experience...

My class let in 65 students.the class after me let in about 73..supposedly next year they are letting in 120...i already know first hand..that in my class of about 60somethingish...theres not enough teachers to get quality education! how can they accomodate 120? that being said..i think there will always be job available, but maybe just not the one you want or had hope for...most definitely shortage for bedside nursing...i see a lot of people excited about their "calling" and finish school and realize that you are overworked and underpaid. You want to help people but are sometimes thrown into an environment where you are stressed, don't have time to spend with your pt., and can't even help yourself. Many go back for their masters..A lot of NPs and CRNAs wannabes.. Not a lof of men going into this field? I actually see alot going in because they want the CRNA path (which apparantly is the new thing to be now)..I have 6 guys in my class...4 of them went into nursing so they can pursue CRNA. I see one of two things happening. People continue to be underpaid, while the responsibilites to be an RN continue to add..OR the higher up people in the corporate world of the hosptial realizes that nurses are the foundation of the hospitals and finally show them some RESPECT..i hope its the latter :nuke:

doesn't pa stand for physician assistant? i thought you had to get a masters for that...am i reading this ad right? physician's assistant-emergency department department: emergency room schedule:full-timeshift:evening & night shifthours:7p-7a. 3p-11p, 1p-1asalary:$28.64 + exp pay + diffsjob details:- graduate of rn program - cpr certification required - rn license required - customer service skills are required - experience is preferred the ed physician's assistant is a registered professional nurse with advance education and training in the care of individuals presenting to the emergency department. this position is employed by the hospital for the purpose of performing the initial medical screenings on individuals presenting to the emergency department. the ed physician's assistant works in collaboration with the epg physicians, ed clinical coordinator, clinical managers, and staff nurses in the planning, implementing and evaluation of care. required: excellent communication skills; excellent time management skills; excellent interpersonal skills. a minimum of 18 months of practice as a physician's assistant.

I'm currently about to start my clinicals so the I know that its not unusual for the instructors to warn us to always be extra precautious. That I understand. What I don't understand is how it seems that as a RN, I would be responsible for looking over EVERYONE else's job. She basically said that RN's are responsible for the pt., the people under them (LPNs aids), the pharmacist to dispense the right drug, the doctors to prescribe the right drug and to alert them of any unsual finding in lab results. If any of these people make errors, it is my legal responsiblity to detect it since at the end of the day, I'm the one administering the medicine or signing my name at the bottom of the chart. She said that you are legally responsible to TRIPLE check the above so that everything is right. If the doctor prescribe the wrong medicine or the wrong dosage, it is my responsibilty to know better. But isn't that why HE is the doctor making the big bucks? My question is, is there anybody looking over us? I know that it is the real world out there, but this really scares me. I know nursing is rewarding and what not, but it seems like it is also such a taxing job (physically, mentally, emotionally, legally). Its just frustrating to know that since I am only human, I will make mistakes. Now I have to worry about other people's mistakes too. Is this worth it?

im currently in a bsn program right now. i don't believe that there is too much of a diff (if any) in pay. the advantages of having a bsn is that if you decide to go back for your masters, you can apply directly (after obtaining your experience). with an ADN, you would have to go back for your BSN (typically one more year). Also, having an BSN might give you a little advantage when applying for administrative postion. i say "little" because i don't think you have to have a bsn to do so. i'm sure they would take a person who has a ADN who has 10 years of experience and is hardworking over a newly graduated BSN nurse. the hospital looks for experience when it comes to pay. after you graduate, you are a RN. your badge does not say RN, BSN or RN, ADN. i personally went for the BSN because it gives me more options on what i could do later on. hope that helps!

I think that if you have the time (program might be longer, altho some BSN is 2 years), and the money (it wasn't too much of a diff for me, CC school was 1000ish and my current school is 1600ish) then go for your BSN. If you latter decide that you want to further your education/career with your masters then you will need a BSN. Also, since you already have a degree, you might qualify for an accelerated program so it will take less time.

I think that if you have the time (program might be longer, altho some BSN is 2 years), and the money (it wasn't too much of a diff for me, CC school was 1000ish and my current school is 1600ish) then go for your BSN. If you latter decide that you want to further your education/career with your masters then you will need a BSN. Also, since you already have a degree, you might qualify for an accelerated program so it will take less time.

For my school, the test was called TEAS...i know of a community college that had to take an entrance test by another name....some schools require, some don't. If your grades are so so you can use it to your advantage by doing better on the test to make up for it.....

I think you might have to talk to someone to be sure that your grades 10 years ago would even be considered....if it is, you probally have nothing to worry about...the committee looks at a lot of factors...and as long as they see that you have a positive trend (doing bad/okay to doing better) they will consider it...just to be sure, you should try to nail the essay portion or the entrance exam....

your prenursing gpa is your gpa calculated from your college undergraduate classes. it doesn't really matter if it was at university or cc...although some programs may only accept a certain amout of credit hours from "junior colleges= cc". just be sure to talk to your advisor so you don't end up wasting your time....

every school is different. talk to a nursing advisor at the other school you may want to apply to.

my insurance wouldn't cover it since i am over 18 unless i was "in danger of getting it". once i told them that i was starting nursing school soon, they agreed that I will be in an environment where i would be expose to it. since i'm getting my shots in july, school would have already started for me by the next time i get it (since they need to be a month apart). i'm pretty sure you have a student health clinic at school and they are extremely cheaper (10 bucks or so)

i got tested at my univeristy (theres a health fee thats included in tutition) and it costed me about $27. My test came back negative even though my mom swore i did have chicken pox. Now I need the shots and they're $100 bucks...and you need two of them (a month apart). Thank lord my insurance covered them so i only paid the copay...you can try a heath clinic in your area...if they have the shots, they prob. charge you cheap....

I have some questions too. 1. Do you think that it is a good field to pursue if you want to have a family, if so would it be almost impossible to go to school and raise your children? 2. How many hours do most CRNAs work a week, and how often are you on call? 3. Of course this is hard work ( others life depend on you), but do you find it less stressful than bedside nursing? I see that a lot of the RNs complain that they are drained at the end of the day.

What field did you pursue or were thinking of pursuing before nursing? Why did you end up choosing nursing?

i also agree with most above. i'm a student too, and i am always anticipating and preparing my next move. while this forum has been very informative, as soon as pay is mentioned, someones always gets sensitive. why do i have to bust my butt in school and owe money for loans and not know ahead what i'm getting myself into? of course nursing is hard work. of course you have to care and love what you do. at the end of the day, you have bills to pay and a family to take care of, and how much money you make does make a difference. i'm not sure if this is positively the reason why, but maybe this is the reason why nurses are so underpaid. some don't know how much do are suppose to make. you can be a nurse for 20 years and be making the same thing as a new grad, and you wouldn't even know it unless you ask.

Is this only a 2 year program, if so, is it for BSN? I'll actually be attending LSU and its a 3 year program.

I think your gpa doesn't sound bad at all, but of course, its very competive. take some extra upper level bio classes and work on your application essay. i applied with my friend, and i got in but he didn't. his gpa was considerably higher than mines. i scored a bit higher than him on the entrance exam, and i'm guessing that my essay was better. gpa matters, but there are other factors too!

Hi, I was told that in order to get accepted into the master's program (NP or CRNA), you cannot receive anything lower than a B. Can anyone verify this for me. I won't be starting nursing school until this fall and my ultimate goal would be to further my education when I am done. Of course I need to worry about finishing my BSN first, and I won't exactly know what i want to specialize in until I start clinicals and get a feel of everything. I will always strive to do my best, but I do realize that the grading scale is different when you are in the program (80 is a C). Anyone's input is appreciated since I am just trying to think ahead and be prepared.

maybe i'm wrong but NP start off as RNs first. over here if you have your associate you would need to go back to school for about 18 months to get your BSN and then apply to NP program. If you already have your BSN you can apply directly to NP program (another 2 year). No matter what you need hospital setting experience (1-2 years min) before you can appy to the program. Some school also requires that you take GRE too. This is just what I'm told. Anyone can feel free to correct me

pharmacists have 2 years of prereqs and the program itself is 4 years (6 years total) my bsn nursing would take 2 years prereqs and the program is 3 years (5 years total) pharmacists are important and trusted, but are not nurses? my point was not to look down on other professions, but to compare it with nursing. i respect any body nomatter what their job, that does an honest day work. it just sounds unfair to me that not enough people in important places are speaking up and representing nurses. even if money wasn't a factor, nursing is a vey physically and emotionally hard job. how can a nurse do her job right if she is burnt out?