This is coming from a female nursing student, AMEN BROTHER! I am experiencing the same thing in my classes. There are days when it takes all my strength to stay in my seat and not tell them all to SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! I guess this is why I get along better with men in work/school environments. Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those women incapable of having female friends but I can't stand all the *****ing and whining. "professor so-n-so can't we move the test date b/c we have another test that day." "How do they expect us to do all this?" "blah, blah, complain, compain." You are also right that it does tend to come from the older women in class. This is equally as troubling for me b/c I am 29 and I feel like wearing a sign to class that says "I'm not one of them!"