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Serenityseeker

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  1. Also glad that the retesting came up completely negative. Maybe you should consider a lawsuit against RAMP for deactivating your license based on.lab error that was initially clearly not supported by follow up PETH testing which resulted in loss of employment.
  2. I personally haven't heard of the happening, but a quick AI search shows it's a real possibility. See following: "While alcohol, specifically ethanol, is sometimes listed as an ingredient in vape products, it is also frequently found as an unlisted ingredient in e-liquids. Studies have shown that many commercially available vape juices contain ethanol, and some contain more than 10%. A study published by VCU News found that out of 56 samples, all but three contained ethanol, and 11 contained more than 10%. " Unfortunately, I don't think you'd have a strong legal case, just as you wouldn't have a strong legal case for a potentially positive urine from fermented food such as saurkraut, vinegar, or overly ripened bananas where potential alcohol content may not be listed.
  3. In some respects, nurses in NJ can choose to do PAPNJ instead of RAMP. Most nurses only hear "if you want to keep/proect your license, you must join RAMP" as an alternative to discipline. They are never offered PAPNJ as a second alternative to discipline, but it is. Once in a contract with RAMP you can't switch to PAPNJ and vice versa. Typically if your evaluation arrives at a SUD disorder, you will have a 5 year contract in PAPNJ, the same as RAMP. Though PAPNJ maybe less punitive overall, it is more expensive and more frequent testing (2× per week testing 1st year, 1 time per week 2nd year, continuing to taper down over subsequent years). So pluses and minuses to both programs. If someone undergoing RAMP evaluation, but not under contract would want to switch to PAPNJ under contract as an alternative to discipline monitoring, the BON would likely want the duration of PAPNJ contract to match to match that of RAMP's recommendations which is typically 5 years and there would need to be a whole PAPNJ evaluation and all this would delay the start and completion of either program.

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