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Thomas Jefferson University (TJU) Pre-Fall Fact-1 2025 Center City ABSN
Hi guys, I am a current student in TJU's absn program graduating this May. Please let me know if any of you have questions about the classes, clinicals, anything tbh! I would love to help and offer any tips or guidance. Also please join your respective classes facebook group for more info if you have not already done so, or someone should create one. I am here to help :) and good luck. all of you will do great!!
- Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
Happy New Years! I am wondering that as well and if there is an official start date that will be announced for the program? I believe it is around May but apparently it is not finalized yet? Also does anyone have any information on when we are supposed to do our medical clearances and requirements before the program, I assume getting those clearances will need some time to complete and I have not received any info on that either?
- Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
Hi, I am out of state and have started researching online for apartments. I'm still in the beginning stages and am looking to go in person soon to see the options. Yeah I def need to stay within a certain budget but still want to be in a safe area and place. Let me know if anyone here is interested in finding a place together or options you guys know about!
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
I am as well and I am hoping someone has more information on Drexel's program. That program does seem very intense considering they do have an exit examination before you graduate. As you mentioned it is also 11 months which is intense. But to be honest all of these ABSN programs will be intense no matter what and Drexel has far better NCLEX examination scores. I also think there are obviously almost always reviews about disorganization for any ABSN program. Drexel's scores are almost always in the mid 90s ranges and for 2022 I believe it was around 87%. We really need to see which would not cause a risk for us being able to graduate and sit for NCLEX testing. While the Drexel program does seem harder and more intense I really think it does a better job in preparing students for the NCLEX examination which is essentially what we need. I am nervous though, again this is just a waiting game it's a difficult choice. One school is at risk of their status and the other is far more intense. I also think Drexel is way more expensive so I am also just keeping my options open and waiting for any new updates from the school.
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
The dean has stated they have accreditation until 2031 but if they keep falling below that 80%, the average of three consecutive years will decline. The board factors in the averages of the past three years I believe. Accreditation until 2031 honestly means nothing if the school is not able to maintain those 80% above averages, because all boards will see the drop so there is risk of loosing that as well if it continues to go lower. I really gravitated towards this program because of that automatic acceptance to grad school which is why this is unfortunate as well. I think there is a specific counselor at the school that is for the DNP and MSN programs that could possibly help answer that question but then again their answers will be in the benefit of the school.
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
LOL same. I asked a list of very specific questions and she basically gave me that same generic response. Literally think it would be fair for them to at least return the deposit back to us because we were notified of this just a couple days ago and NO where was it posted on their website that they were on provisional status. I feel like they literally will say that you need to ask the dean the questions but it's good to give it a try to email someone else. I want my deposit back LOL like that is such a waste. I think so many people may be looking into deferment too, like she can't expect us to just go off of her word on all of this being okay we need actual factual information on this.
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
I did receive an update from the dean that the pass rate for 2022-2023 has improved to a 90% and they are awaiting a notification from the PA board to return to full approval status, which will happen this January. This is before our start date in May and at this point most of us have made a deposit so it is a waiting game. It has gone up significantly after that from a 79.40% to a 90%. Now this is better news but the board reviews scores every year so if the score for October 2023-September 2024 falls below again, there is still risk of going back to provisional approval status for the second time. I am just not sure why she has not made an announcement yet on the improvement of a 90% score, I am assuming she is waiting to return to full approval status in January in order to send out an official email. It is reassuring to hear the last known recorded scores were better, but there is still that risk of that 2023-2024 year evaluation of scores and whether or not the score will be above 80%. If the school's score is looked at every year and they fall below again in October 2023-September 2024, I am assuming there will be two years again for the school to show improvement again and we would be the 2024-2025 cohort, which would have us in the CLEAR in order to graduate and sit for the NCLEX. I am sorry if this sounds very confusing, this is a lot to take in and I know everyone may be a little frantic on the next steps after hearing this news. To make it clear, the score in Oct 2021- September 2022 was 79.40%. The score for Oct 2022-September 2023 was 90%. The dean is awaiting for the board to return the school to full status and will get the notification in January. If the score for Oct 2023- September 2024 falls below again, I am assuming there will be two years again in order to have the PA board reevaluate which would be October 2025. When our cohort ends it will be May 2025, which is before October 2025. I am not sure if I am getting the dates right and it is hard to assume because I am not aware of when exactly the evaluations are done and scoring is released. But this news is a little more on the positive side, considering our time frame on graduating because even if it falls that Oct 2023-September 2024 year, we would finish before that two year evaluation again. I hope that makes sense! Is anyone looking into changing their plans or anything yet? I mean if we have placed a deposit it honestly will be dependent on any news we get in January before we start. Right now I feel like I may be looking into deferring my decision for TJU. It is just hard because I want to trust that the school won't fall in scores again but it is hard to confirm if we would be in the safe zone until we graduate. It is very tedious to know when exactly they evaluate and scores are released. I am not sure if this is worth the risk..Please let me know if you guys have any updates or are willing to share any next steps you have after this news!
- Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
I know I am just so shocked. I carefully planned in order to avoid applying to schools that would even have a chance of this happening so hearing this news is so disheartening. TJU is one of the six schools that were moved to provisional status, which is so bad. I did look at other scores of the six schools placed on this status and schools like Lincoln were getting 50% for years until they removed their accreditation. The only thing really stressing me out is the time length from when we would graduate. There is a chance of the status being lost during the time we go there which is a big NO. I don't even want to risk that and put myself in that situation midway through the program. I feel like it definitely would put us in a difficult position whether or not we want to go to a grad program because it can affect our ability to sit for the NCLEX if the status is lost through our time there. Do you know if it affects our ability to just go to grad school at TJU or anywhere else for NP school? I mean I am sure it doesn't look good when applying. I am just so conflicted right now, and don't even know if I should take the chance. I would most definitely email the dean, I already have and she has replied. I think obviously they are going to support the school and cover up anything they can in order to get us to go but they seem pretty confident with the scores improving. It's like a gamble to take a chance midway through us attending. It is also annoying that most of us have already submitted our deposit so we would be losing that if our plans changed. I wish they notified us sooner, because they had idea of these test scores. At the end of the day we need to make the best decisions for ourselves and like the previous commenter said if there was any chance of the school risking accreditation I would not go. It would not be worth leaving a program midway and losing even more time to obtain the degree.
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
Hi, than you for sharing. Do you have any insight on if you think the class will pass with an over 80% rate? It is difficult to hear that there is a chance of accreditation being lost but I think this university has stressed the changes they have made and how they do want to improve this. It also was .4 off the 80% mark but it is unfortunate to see that they were one of the six schools in PA that were placed under provisional status. I am left a little conflicted as I have already made a deposit and would be graduating in 2025 so I have no idea if the school would still be accredited till then. Please let me know if you do have any insight or more information on this it would greatly be appreciated. Also when would you be graduating from the school?
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
Provisional Approval Status As some of you may know, the University has been placed under provisional approval status because of falling below the pass rate of 80% in 2022. It has not affected the accreditation status of the school as they have two years which would be 2024. I wanted to know if anyone had any more insight or opinions on this matter as our cohort would be graduating after those 2 years, in May 2025. Accreditation status is very important for nursing programs as this can directly impact the ability to sit for the NCLEX. I wanted to see if anyone else saw this update and their opinions on if this and if it is changing anyones decisions after already submitting a deposit? The past rate for 2022 was literally .4 off but I am still a little worried on the future pass rates for 2023 and 2024 as those have not been released. I feel like we would have a better idea after seeing the 2023 scores but I am not sure when those get released. I also wanted to ask if anyone got any updated emails regarding orientation or anything like that after confirming their enrollment decision?
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Thomas Jefferson University - Fact 1 & 2 Program (Pre-Fall 2024)
Hii, the main difference between the Fact 1 and 2 program is the length of time to complete the program in order to obtain a Bachelor of Science in nursing. The Fact 1 program is 1 year and the Fact 2 program is 2 years. The curriculum of the program is consistent but is adjusted to the amount of time, the Fact 2 spans out the same courses over a longer period of time. I believe there is also possibility of being able to work while completing the program but with Fact 1 it is recommended to not work as it is only 12 months long. Overall students will still earn the same degree and take the same courses but the amount of time for completion will be different. I would recommend Fact 1 if you are comfortable completing in that short time span, or if you do want more flexibility Fact 2 would fit that preference. I hope this helps a little, the TJU website does show an outline of the two programs and the variations of length. Hi everyone!! I did submit my deposit for TJU and am excited to connect with all those attending. I have attempted to create a group but since I do not have a facebook, it would be great if anyone else would be able to create a group through that route!