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@Senchen Are you still in need of getting it implemented? So Sorry I am just replying. Been out of work due to surgery. Can you send me your email and I can send you the presentation PowerPoint I presented to the Clinical Leadership Board.

Pay rates actually went up because you are being paid for 80 and are working 72. The union is also included in the implementation. We had no problems with HR. Individuals that work float and want to do this would probably have to be under the floor manager instead of the pool manager. We first went through the NPC and then the NPC arranged the presentation/meeting to be done with QUAD which is the clinical leadership board. Depending on how many beds the floor has, the staffing methodology would need to be adjusted. For example, we have 2 sides to our med surg unit, and we currently only have 24 nurses and there is a need for 36 for the unit to be adequately staff. That is next to impossible because what management doesn't realize is nurses get hurt, go out on fmla, etc. I am planning to do my 6-month evaluation to see if doing the 72 has improved or made things worse. Since it is considered a pilot, it can be pulled if it hasn't improved the functioning of the unit. The med-surg unit, which me and my coworker/partner were a part of, did the pilot first and this will be followed by ICU & ED. In my opinion, it has improved because alot of nurses never even looked at the WVAMC b/c it was 80 hours but now the WVAMC can say they are competitive with the 72. I can go over more with you. You can send me your email and I can provide you with our presentation and the step-by-step process more thoroughly to get the buy-in from mgmt

Hi, did your facility ever get an increase and if so how was it done?

Hi, Kelly! Yes that is what my presentation was on as well. We also included that if you don't work the holiday, you won't get paid and this saves the company money bc everybody isn't getting paid regardless if they work it or not. I'll send it over. I might have it in my home folder but for sure at work. I also created a mock schedule

Nevermind, I see your email address. Would you like me to send you a copy of my presentation? I don't have everything with me but I believe I have this in my email

Hi! My apologies...Where did you send your information to?

Hi! I collaborated with a coworker and was able to get the 72/80 implemented. I can give you some information to help with the buy-in process with your leadership team. How can I reach out to you?

I was just looking up information to help implementation of policy for the 72/80 here at the VA in Wilmington, DE. I and another coworker collaborated and researched to have the 72/80 implemented. I am proud to state that it was approved and the medical-surgical unit began it 6/5/2022 to eventually be implemented hospital-wide. If anyone would like more information on how to get buy-in from their nursing leadership team, please feel free to comment and I will send you my personal information to help this implementation be done at your VA. Thanks and trust me with support from your units, it can happen. Basically, we still get paid (we actually got an increase) the same as if we were 80. In order to trade off, we had to state that we all agreed that unless we work the holiday, we will not get paid for it. This was fine with most of us as we came from the private sector and that is what is done with them. I noted that one of the hospitals within VISN 4 (Lebanon) had implemented the 72, and reached out to their HR and eventually got in touch with the nurse managers. They assisted me through the process and myself and my coworker first presented it to the Nurse Practice Council who then supported to be presented to our Clinical Leadership. Again, I am willing to assist and help anyone who wants to get together to present the idea to get everyone onboard. There is no way that we all should not be doing 3 12-hour shifts a week, especially nurses that work on inpatient nursing units. The VA has to make themselves competitive with the private sector because it is a great place to work!!