BIMS and PHQ-9 completion dates

rukiddingme · Mar 23, 2011

Can someone tell me where in the RAI manual it states to complete the BIMS and PHQ-9 interviews on the ARD rather than after the ARD like the rest of the MDS?
My SW completes the interviews and other sections of the MDS. She does all of the interviews when she completes the rest of the MDS - usually 2 or 3 days after the ARD. Otherwise, she would have to go to the MDS twice - once to complete the interviews then a second time to complete the other sections of the MDS (A,E and Q). This is way too much runnig back and forth with 180+ beds!
Thanks so much!

The BIMs interview has to be done within the 7 day lookback period. The PHQ-9 should be done the day prior to the ARD, or on the ARD. (this info can be found in the MDS 3.0 Track Changes for the RAI manual)

None of the interview items or information should be gathered after the ARD.

glm777, BSN, RN · Mar 23, 2011

So the person doing the BIMS and PHQ would be signing the MDS prior to the ARD. If they have other sections of the MDS to complete as well, then they would be signing the MDS twice, correct? Once before the ARD for the interviews and again for the completion of items after the ARD (Section A, E, etc)

What about the pain interview - does that need to be done before the ARD as well?

And where can I find the "MDS 3.0 Track Changes for the RAI manual ".

Thank you for the info.

rukiddingme · Mar 24, 2011

So the person doing the BIMS and PHQ would be signing the MDS prior to the ARD. If they have other sections of the MDS to complete as well, then they would be signing the MDS twice, correct? Once before the ARD for the interviews and again for the completion of items after the ARD (Section A, E, etc)
What about the pain interview - does that need to be done before the ARD as well?
And where can I find the "MDS 3.0 Track Changes for the RAI manual ".
Thank you for the info.

The MDS 3.0 Track Changes are the changes made to the manual after the manual was completed. You can find the full RAI manual - including the Track Changes on the CMS website, just search the CMS website for MDS 3.0 and you will find the online RAI manual.

The person doing the sections of the MDS should sign for the dates they did the interviews, so, yes, they could be signing for different dates for different sections.

The pain interview should also be conducted on the ARD or the day before the ARD - so the information gives a correct picture of the residents pain for the MDS.