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Documents needed by NCSBN for Visa Screen and different state Boards from foreign applicants need to be sent directly by the school to these agencies (using official sealed envelopes and letterheads from the school). TORs and diplomas sent by the applicants themselves are not accepted....I think it would be difficult for an applicant with fake TORs and diplomas to get through these agencies. With internet, it would be easy to verify if someone is really a graduate of a certain institution or not.

I also did my completion courses (Paediatrics/Obstetrics) with Deakin University and did not have any problem with CGFNS (for VisaScreen) and Vermont (for NCLEX-RN). If NY does not accept these courses offered by Deakin, I couldn't think of any other way Australian nurses (who lack in theory/clinicals in these subjects) can complete these courses in Australia (as far as I know, only Deakin University offer such completion courses here in Australia).

The main purpose of the Australian Bridging Program is to prepare the foreign nurse to the Australian Nursing setting/standard so a 5 year BSN Philippine Nursing graduate would still need to undergo such bridging course. The reason why Australian/New Zealand nursing curriculum can be done in just 3 years compared to other countries is because Australian/New Zealand Nursing students study ALL NURSING SUBJECTS right from first year to graduation. Nursing students in Australia are not forced to complete unnecessary subjects (who would like taking Filipino 101, Taxation 102, P.E 101, Rizal 100, etc. in a nursing course?) that usually consume two or more years in a 4/5-year Nursing curriculum in other countries. There are no board exams for Australian Nursing graduates but it is now a competitive course to get into (there is a minimum University Admission Index (UAI) for high school graduates to get accepted into the Nursing program).

Easy...just recruit nurses who finished their BSN degrees from reputable or topnotch nursing schools in the Philippines.

Does it not seem kind of wrong to others that nurses from the Phillipines expect our us to let them in our country to practice nursing but their Country won't allow us to even sit for their exam. Giving should be a two way street not a one way street. Given that the Philippine government allows foreign nurses to work in the PI, I couldn't think of any hospital in the Philippines that could afford the salary rate of a US nurse.. . I couldn't imagine any nurse from the US would be willing to relocate and work in the Philippines (unless working under charity) with the same salary rate (around US$200 a month) as their local counterpart ...

indigenous 1646, from L.L. indigenus "born in a country, native," from L. indigena "a native," lit. "in-born person," from Old L. indu "in, within" (earlier endo) + gen-, root of gignere (perf. genui) "beget," from PIE *gen- "produce." The above definition from dictionary.com says "born"...I believe Grace OZ has a point...It doesn't say that you have to count back thousands of years to be called indigenous.

Why Florida BON doesn't publish their rule in their website regarding any ruling that a nurse should have worked in Florida for two years before he/she can be eligible for endorsement to another state? At least a nurse who is planning to have his/her initial license in Florida knows the rule before applying in this state.

Correction of the URL of the article: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/new-nurses-denied-work-at-hospitals/2008/01/19/1200620272639.html

I agree..the article below shows how competitive to get a slot for AUS graduates for the New Graduate Program. I don't think they will accept new graduates from foreign countries. http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...620272639.html

Mate, may I know what percentage of Physics have you applied in your Nursing career?...and judging by your so much emphasis on good English communication I believe that you would be better off teaching English than as a Nurse....

I believe the OP should also be informed why Bachelor of Nursing is only three years in Australia. This is because subjects like Language, Government, Chemistry, Mathematics, Religion, etc are not in the Australian Nursing curriculum. In Australia, these courses are assumed to have been learned in High School. In other words, Australian nursing students are taught ALL Nursing subjects right from first year until graduation (i.e. students don't waste their time and money with "nuisance" subjects). I know of another country whose 4-yr BSN curriculum is readily accepted in the US but their first year subjects consist of just one or no "real" Nursing course at all!

I believe the above statement is quite unfair. I got my three-year Bachelor of Nursing in Australia. When my TOR was assessed in Vermont for approval to sit the NCLEX (I passed the exam March last year), all the necessary theoretical and clinical requirements of the required subjects were either exceeded or met except Obstetrics (40 hrs short) and Paediatrics (35 hrs short). However, the number of clinical hours I accumulated in my especialty subject (Medical-Surgical) was five times that of what was required in the US. Over-all, I can say that the clinical hours of the Australian Nursing curriculum is comparable to that of of the American system. The main diffrence is the allocation of clinical hours in different subjects. This is because the American nursing students follow the generalised Nursing curriculum while Australian students follow the especialist Nursing curriculum.

Just a reminder..please avoid using rude words in this forum ...Have a g'day mate (I don't rely on your unathorised website references on the use of "g'day"...As a lecturer you should know that).

What do you mean by we?...and where did you get that rule that "g'day mate" is usually not at the end of the sentence?..Is there any Australian grammar book you can quote?

I believe Australian universities have quotas for full-fee paying international students...best to inquire directly from them.

Of course you don't want a GC at the moment (because you will break the condition of your E-3 visa if you want a GC now and you will be sent back to Australia)....G'day mate.:wink2:

Well, what else can I say but goodluck when you'll apply for AOS from E-C into GC visa...I rest my case.

A follow up to the above news... http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23321433-2702,00.html "And when she reported the rape to Thursday Island (authorities) and said she wanted to come off, she was told she would have to have any time taken off deducted from leave owed to her.".... It makes me sick and wonder what kind of mentality these Thursday Island authorities have.

Hi! The link below gives you a list of Australian Universities and an idea of their nursing programs: http://www.australian-universities.com/list

Have you actually experienced what you have mentioned in your first paragraph?...I mean have you started adjusting your status into GC with an existing E-3 visa?...or have you actually consulted an immigration officer about this?..It seems too good to be true...You mentioned "there is NO need to have any intention NOT to stay in the US indefinitely". What is the purpose then of having some E-3 visa requirements?..It is true that currently, there is no limit in renewing the E-3 visa, but you have to remember that government changes..Australia just had a new government and the US will definitely have a new one this year. Both governments can just change or totally end this E-3 treaty visa anytime soon. It is not being negative about the E-3 visa but being in the safer side in the future in selecting a visa for the US especially if you have a family. I would rather have my employer petition me for a GC visa (enjoy life in Australia for a while - it's still a lucky country anyway, so it doesn't matter if we have to wait for five years!), than go to the US in two months time and worry in the uncertainty of renewing our E-3 visa every two years.

No wonder your lawyer insists H-1B visa because of the uncertainty of adjusting the E-3 visa to GC.

I wonder then how those people you know went around one of the main requirements of the E-3 visa-that you have no intention of staying indefinitely in the US. When you adjust to GC, you are actually intending to stay in the US indefinitely...I would love to know how any lawyer could have gone around that requirement using an E-3 visa. Remember that they probably were able to adjust successfully from E-3 to GC when there was no retrogression.

My family and I were also thinking of using the E-3 visa for Australians. However, upon further research, we found out that it is not a dual intent visa...meaning you can not upgrade it into an immigrant (green card) visa. The main condition of the E-3 visa for Australians is that the applicant have no intention of staying in the US indefinitely. The problem with this is that when you try to upgrade it into an immigrant visa, you are in effect breaking the condition of the E-3 visa, automatically cancelling it. The only solution I can think of is to go back to Australia once your E-3 visa expires (renewable every two years) and start again with the immigrant (green card) visa application-start from scratch. If you have no intention to be a permanent migrant in the US, I believe the E-3 visa is the fastest way to go. However, if you intend to stay in the US as a permanent resident, then I believe it is not practical (especially if you have kids that are nearing 21 years old). If you really want to use the E-3 visa why don't you try to talk to your first agent if you can avail of it (E-3) instead of the immigrant (I-140) visa? More information on E-3 visa for Australians: http://perth.usconsulate.gov/consular/visa-e3.html

I'm just wondering...If BN is considered an arts degree, why then is the title BN and not BAN (since there is a Master of Arts in Nursing (MAN) for a postgraduate title). BSN (undergraduate) and MSN (graduate) are post nominal awards for science oriented nursing degrees... they make sense to me... but a BN and MAN for arts oriented titles...well, where is the "A" in the BN if its considered an arts degree?