#1 Breathing:

[blueberrybon]

We learned in school the most important to least important issues in nursing. Breathing was #1.

One of my guys I take care of has a trach with a #6 canula. He has quite a bit of phlem coming out of his trach and his mouth. He's on a tussin, but I'm wondering if his secretions are normal for a person on trach care. I do suctioning X2 during my shift (and sometimes more if he requests it) and tube feeding along with it. He is very time consuming, and I'm just wondering if trach patients are time consuming period. I've learned to suction him after feeding, or else I end up doint suctioning, feeding, then suctioning again.

Also, what do you think about suctioning. When I do it, I'm worried about 1) how deep I go, and 2) the small amount of saline getting into his lungs, possibly causing pnemonia. But there is a special thing called a saline fish (SALINE INTRODUCED DOWN THE TUBE TO CLEAR SECRETIONS?) that is used frequently which would cause even more liquid to be possibly introduced into the lungs.

Isn't this a possible nursing dilema?

Blue

Any input?

Blue

[judytheoldrn]

I am concerned that you indicate there is more phlegm after feeding - feeding should not be increasing the production of mucus. Generally one would suction before feeding so as to decrease the risk of vomiting as stimulated by suctioning/coughing. I worry that aspiration is occurring during or after the feeding/

As for the length of suction - for a trach you would place about 1/2 the length of the suction cath into the trach. Once a cough results, you know you shouldn't go further. Try to insert the cath while the patient is breathing in - that's when the trachea is likely to be dilated, rather than constricted.

The saline instillation has been a standard since I graduated almost 35 years ago. Then there were some studies that said that the instillation of saline would drop the O2 sat. My response to that is, so don't do it on the patients who have a noticeable drop, but on the others maybe it's ok. Then a few years ago, there was a study (probably several) that said that instilling saline would result in the colonized organisms in the trach or ETT being washed down into the otherwise "sterile" lower airways. Our hospital has adopted this belief and we only use saline when absolutely necessary, rather than as a routine.

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