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Young, Thin, and Cute New Hires

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TheCommuter has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

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The management at my place of employment recently hired a group of nurses who are all youngish, slim, and physically attractive as a response to declining patient satisfaction scores. Is the solution working? We can only wait and see. You are reading page 2 of Young, Thin, and Cute New Hires. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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A birdy told me that Northwestern Chicago is feverishly hiring young ones and keeping them virginal, with pretty much no orientation. True?

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PureLifeRN has 4 years experience and specializes in OR.

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These kind of posts amaze me.

If any young, new nurse writes a post stating that a bunch of old, crotchety nurses are mean to them, well then they get ripped a new one. But when its the other way around....hey...its ok.

I've noticed its popular to be judgemental of newer nurses on this forum. But never to older ones.

There is nothing wrong with being a new nurse who is excited to take care of patients and have a great personality. Just my two cents.

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Yes, they were. I remember when I went through training, the first day of class, the instructors made all of us stand up and started making statements like, "If you are a man, sit down.... If you are older than 30, sit down.... if you are married, sit down...if you weigh more than 130, sit down..." At the end of this demonstration, only a couple were left standing. She was trying to show us how strict the hiring requirements were for flight attendants/stewardesses back in the 60's and 70's. My graduating class was quite a mix, though. Young, old, men, women, different ethnicities. It has changed dramatically.

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Jenni811 has 3 years experience as a RN and specializes in Intermediate care.

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Well we are having a big problem with turnover. Again.. Mostly hiring people with very little to no experience only. I'm sorry, but you need a mix. You NEED those who have the experience to teach the newbies how to do things correctly. It's insane. We have pushed out everyone with any decent experience. I've been here over 5 years and I'm afraid that my time is coming too. Of course our patient satisfaction scores have dropped significantly. Oh yeah and actual patient care sucks. I look at the way we provided care even as early as two years ago and then I look at how we provide it today. It's pathetic at best. :sarcastic:

Wrong. We as new people need the nurses who have already been there for years. I don't need a nurse who is a new hire who has 10-20 years of experience because they are just as new as i am to that unit. We are learnig the same things and at the same pace.

And it goes both ways...they expect me to learn as quickly as this other nurse. They hold me to the same expectations as any nurse on that unit once i got off orientation. Yes i appreciate my older nurses and look up to them, depend on them for their expertise from time to time. but just because im new doesn't mean i don't have the skill to do it myself or look it up myself with the resources provided by the hospital.

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Jenni811 has 3 years experience as a RN and specializes in Intermediate care.

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These kind of posts amaze me.

If any young, new nurse writes a post stating that a bunch of old, crotchety nurses are mean to them, well then they get ripped a new one. But when its the other way around....hey...its ok.

I've noticed its popular to be judgemental of newer nurses on this forum. But never to older ones.

There is nothing wrong with being a new nurse who is excited to take care of patients and have a great personality. Just my two cents.

Thank you!!! If i were to make this post about old nurses saying we shouldn't be hiring them id be starting a war on here. But when "old nurses" post this about new/young nurses its totally ok. I personally find this post offensive and i plan on reporting it.

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But it's true in some facilities Jeni811. It's not about healthcare kiddo, it's only about $$ and how to gets more and more and more of it. I am sure your P90 hot guys are instant hires as well.

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well where i work all that get hired are new grads ( probably all that apply) some are ok work wise others are horrible!!!!!!! they vary from great looking to not , thin to fat, most are not young ( over 35) and some are friendly where as others are rude even to pts. my manager doesnt seem to know how to hire people. probably takes anyone that applies, has a license and no criminal background. 1-3 years experience on my unit is a very experienced nurse!!!!! turnaround is unbelievable!!!!!! but dont wory experienced nurses , my facility will hire you because you wont be getting paid much more than a new grad. lol.....many pts want the older nurses because they think they are more experienced but that is very far from the case on my unit.

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sometimes it is not ageism, it is business! you are priced out. ( some hospitals actually dont pay experienced nurses that much more money) and some managers like new staff they can mold tgeir own way. they dont want anyone witg any ideas or who does things differently ( better or not!)

if experienced staff was more cost effective than they would be more sought after. believe me . look at physicians . yes, the hot /beautiful ones may get better scores but how many sane people reallly seek out a dr based on looks or age? i see it work against residents for the most part who look so young . i might be more comfortable witha younger dr ( feel like s/he judges me less more comfortable talking to him/her but the typical pt doesn't, i dont think care that their dr is good looking)

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I came into nursing as a 2nd career. First career paid 2 x as much and didnt have to deal with miserable old nurses.

When i tell people i was in pharma the automatically assume i was in sales because i look like a model. Hey their words not mine LOL!

Anyhows, I think floors should have a good mix of younger and older nurses. Its nice when the older nurses can teach the younger ones!! As for patients who may give better ratings based on looks? I highly doubt that! Now if your a great nurse + great looks then thats wonderful. You can also be old fat slow and still be a good nurse if you want.

On the other hand, I dont know how a nurse with 20+ years of experience who weighs 250lbs can be as agile and flexbile as me who is 130 lbs and works out. :yes: as for them hiring younger nurses, its because theres high turn around. My floor has hired 15 new grads and we are level 1 trauma center along with top 50 hospital rating.

Who in their right mind would want to do floor nursing and blow out your back at the age of 40 with the need of nerve block shots? not i, thats why floor nursing is a stepping stone not a finally nursing career choice for me.

And as for the miserable older nurses, find something that you enjoy doing and dont eat your young, because the young can eat you too :cheeky:

ciao

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DeBerham has 12 years experience and specializes in RN-BC, ONC, CEN... I've been around.

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Jenni811 hit the nail on the head, it's about $$$. Shockingly, inexperienced nurses (those with 1-3 years of experience) are cheaper to hire than an experienced nurse. Additionally, those coming out of nursing school are typically young and attractive as 22 to 25 year old females are apt to be. What I'll also say is that as a male I never had to deal with the garbage that the more... experienced... nurses dealt out to these new grads. That isn't to say I didn't hear about it, probably since I wasn't viewed as any type of threat to the pecking order. I even had one nurse tell me that the nurse manager was purposefully hiring attractive people to work the floor. That made me chuckle a little bit. What I'd suggest is to get over it. NOTHING good will come from being so superficial. Is it their fault that they're attractive? No. Is it their fault that they are young? No. Are you liable to let your jealousy over SUPERFICIAL things ruin some potential relationships? Yes. If you see that they are not acclimating the the job/culture (ie cell phone use while patients need something) let them know. I'll say though that you may need an attitude adjustment just as much as these new nurses because your feelings will translate in to actions in how you treat/interact with them... and then we'll get to read new posts about how we continue to eat our young.

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Nurse_ has 7 years experience and specializes in Trauma | Surgical ICU.

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If good looks equals good patient outcomes... by all means, go for it.

This is a for-profit hospital. Let that sink in for a minute. The hospital just employed another marketing ploy. Just like Victoria's Secret models and their perfect body sells to average consumers, who will most probably never look that good in a bikini.

We say don't judge the book by the covers but we do it all the time. People who are deemed attractive, not necessarily young or slim, gets hired more than those who aren't. There are multiple studies about how attractiveness gets people more money and success in life.

Is it wrong? I don't know. Is it the fault of the "attractive" person that s/he is perceived attractive? Is it the fault of the knowledgable nurse that her/his knowledge doesn't come across the patient? Is it wrong for a for-profit company to maximize the potential for earnings by hiring attractive people?

It all comes down to, can these attractive nurses deliver safe patient care? And if they can, I don't see anything wrong about it. Because if they got hired by their looks, looks fade, everyone goes old and sooner or later, the new generation will come and take their spot.

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That Guy has 6 years experience as a BSN, RN, EMT-B and specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.

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I got hired because I am a guy

My friends got hired because they are young and attractive

Blah blah blah. This crap gets old

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