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65 year old woman pregnant with quadruplets

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Elvish, BSN, DNP, RN, NP

Specializes in Community, OB, Nursery.

A senior citizen grand multip pregnant with high-order multiples. What could possibly go wrong??

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

To each their own I say. If she's happy, leave her alone.

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Anything goes, eh? How progressive of you.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

To each their own I say. If she's happy, leave her alone.

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By the way, isn't that a Christian Proverb? I'm not Christian, so I get a pass.

mmc51264, ADN, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in orthopedic; Informatics, diabetes. Has 9 years experience.

I guess the youngest that wanted a baby sister/brother can take care of them if/when something happens to mom. I had mine late (37 and 40) and I don't feel too old. I am almost 51 and could probably handle another. I still have regular periods. (NOT happening-had tubes tied LOL) Not that she would have at 65. I do think it is a little selfish, but if she has a strong support system, who am I to judge.

I have a four letter word for her KOOK!!!!!!!!! What kind of physician assists this type of person with fertility treatment? Extreme KOOK. How unethical and disgusting. Wrong on so many levels. Am I judging? Yup. In my nursing opinion, it is a bad idea to risk the life of yourself and four unborn children for a foolish whim. She has more children that about 99.99+% of women in the developed world. The morbidity and mortality associated with this type of pregnancy would seem astronomical. There probably aren't figures...because no one else does this crap. I am not sure if there is socialized medicine in Germany, but this is not a good use of healthcare resources. Not exclusively her business when scarce resources are likely to be used to care to provide specialised medical care (possibly lifelong) for her and these children. Socialized medicine or not, the taxpayers and society will bear a lot of this cost. If she dies in a few years or has a stroke or develops dementia, who will pay for her and the kids?

If this craziness is ok, then what isn't? I am sorry.This is madness. This is not medicine for the benefit of humankind.

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The BILD article states that she is a single mother ("none of the 5 fathers [of her other 13 children] stuck around for long") and the quads were conceived abroad after multiple IVF cycles with donor eggs and embryos (using donor eggs is illegal in Germany). At least it acknowledges that there is no way someone that old and long after menopause could possibly conceive naturally (although she claims that's what happened with her currently youngest daughter who was born when she was 55; highly unlikely, but remotely possible).

I think it's clear the woman - and her doctor - have some serious issues (yes, Octomom and her irresponsible doctor come to mind...). Even if she lied about her age... well, she clearly looks 65. But I guess she passed the wallet biopsy.

"Conceivably", someone her age could have a "change of life" baby, naturally. I think.

PacoUSA, BSN, RN

Specializes in PCU / Telemetry. Has 9 years experience.

Anything goes, eh? How progressive of you.

Whatever. You're just obsessed with me :p

I'm not even that old and it makes me tired just thinking about playing with another's baby for a short time. If she has the energy for this, I sure would like to know her secret.

my mom had me at 38, and I wished she had me earlier. I am an only child. So guess what, when I'm 25, my mom's 63 already. and it makes parents hard to retire. personally i think IVF should not be allowed on women after a certain age. nature has its purpose, but we are trying to overcome it. people who choose to do IVF because they can't conceive are better off adopting and making a positive contribution to the world.

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

people who choose to do IVF because they can't conceive are better off adopting and making a positive contribution to the world.
I agree there are many orphaned or unwanted children in the world who need loving, stable homes and good adoptive parents.

TooManyCats, ASN, BSN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 4 years experience.

my mom had me at 38, and I wished she had me earlier. I am an only child. So guess what, when I'm 25, my mom's 63 already. and it makes parents hard to retire. personally i think IVF should not be allowed on women after a certain age. nature has its purpose, but we are trying to overcome it. people who choose to do IVF because they can't conceive are better off adopting and making a positive contribution to the world.

I think that's a little extreme. Its one thing to say an elderly woman shouldn't conceive a child because of the ethical implications in the procedure, the quality of life her children will experience as their mother ages during their childhood, etc. But to say a woman who can't conceive should just adopt is ridiculous.

Not only is adoption very difficult, and requires a lot of money upfront, screenings, you name it. Plus, many women wish to carry their own child. I required fertility treatments to conceive both of my children and cannot conceive without assistance, but I wouldn't trade the experience of my pregnancy for the world and feel so lucky to have gone through it.

Red Kryptonite

Specializes in hospice. Has 3 years experience.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

To each their own I say. If she's happy, leave her alone.

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Most misunderstood and misused Bible quote of all time.

We are not to judge the state of souls, as in, whether they are saved or condemned.

We are required to judge actions either right or wrong and to act accordingly. How is it Christian or loving to tolerate and encourage wrong?

And this is wrong. The female body stops having the ability to get pregnant after a certain age for many good reasons. She's choosing to impose all this extra risk on her babies and herself, and could end up leaving her other children motherless. Since they don't have fathers, she's especially obligated not to take on more risk than she has to. Besides, what will she do when these children want younger siblings?

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Red Kryptonite

Specializes in hospice. Has 3 years experience.

But I guess she passed the wallet biopsy.

Funniest thing I've read in a long time. :)

meanmaryjean, DNP, RN

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia. Has 40 years experience.

We live in a society where no one can accept 'no' for an answer.

dirtyhippiegirl, BSN, RN

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage. Has 8 years experience.

The Spanish woman who gave birth to twins at 66 died at 69.

I think it's wrong. I know it's her body and she has a right, but she's 65 and even if she lives until she's 85 or older, her health and physical abilities are likely to decline which makes it a safety issue for her and young children. And what if she dies before then, who is responsible for these children? Someone else is which is disruptive for the children, whether its other family members who take care of them or if someone else adopts them. And BTW, she already has 13 children... why does she need 4 more? I know IVF resulted in this, but still 17 kids... that's too many! 13 is too many! Octomom can't even care for her 14 children and has been doing porn and relying on the state to help support them. I also think that the docs doing this are purely motivated financially and not thinking about the health and well-being of everyone involved.

That's my thought personally. If one of the other kids wanted an additional sibling, she could've adopted. We all know India has a booming "rent a uterus" industry that is also feeding the human trafficking issue, I'm sure some of those babies need homes.

These babies will be born prematurely. Average gestation for quadruplets is 29-31 weeks. Add to that the increased risk of pregnancy induced hypertension and the stress of multiples on the placenta, her infants will probably be very tiny when they make their appearance. She is dooming them to at least an 11 week NICU stay, assuming that the infants make it to 29 weeks (which I am betting they won't). They are at risk for blindness, chronic lung disease, brain bleeds, and intestinal necrosis. These babies will go through hell to survive, and the odds are against them having the best outcomes.