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DoGoodThenGo works as a Entrepreneur - Business Owner.

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This is a strange story, indeed. Two reasons come to mind. First and probably foremost is why can't this woman live on her Social Security (started to work, when?) and her nursing pension (25 years accumulation)? Since I don't plan to live 'til 100 I think I'll be okay on mine.,,,,approx 40 yrs Social Security and 20 years nursing pension.

Second reason probably should be a discussion of her age and how the body ages, blah, blah, blah. NOPE, that's not it. There's more to this story I'm sure. And that is, giving this woman her rights AND being POLITICALLY CORRECT. She apparently is enjoying her rights but I don't understand how a hospital management can continue to say that she measures up to the qualifications, mental, physical and psychological that are

requirements of any nurse to sustain her duties. Being polite and nice to someone because she is older and no doubt very sweet and very much wanting to prove her abilities is not in the good of the patients she is caring for.

Having worked around a few older patients as probably most every nurse has, I'm sure we've all talked with them and picked up on the little physical and mental discrepancies that show up in a good evaluation and assessment of just where they are on a scale of 1 to 10. I would never put someone down whom I know in their heart of hearts believe they're a 10, when in fact, they're barely a 7 or 8. Nursing requires the 10 or for real a high 9.

Here's another small detail we must entertain. Besides nursing being difficult it also can become quite repetitious and downright boring. THEREFORE goes ones determination and interest in meeting new challenges of one's job.:nurse:

Social Security is *not* a pension scheme. You pay into it and then when your time comes to draw benefits a formuala is used to determine how much you will receive. IIRC they take one's several highest earning years and work from there. For woman in the OP's situation, born, rasied and worked when women were paid low wages (and that goes for nurses), there isn't going to be much in the SS kitty. Then there is the age old situation for all females, leaving the workforce to marry and and or raise children. To make up for those years a married woman can tap into her husband's benefits, but there again the same caculations apply. If the man didn't earn that much over his working lifetime there may not be that much of a difference between what a wife (or ex-wife) will get versus her own.

The average SS benefit today is around $800 to 1,500 per month, IIRC. That is not enough to live on for many persons if that is their only source of retirement income. Without savings and or pension schemes many on SS are in or near ruin. There are many older persons in my area (NYC) who are seen daily rummaging through trash cans for the empties to return for deposit refund, or anything else they can find of value to sell/redeem to bring in extra funds.

To retire today you need about 75% of your current income, perhaps more. We are living longer and that means there is a good chance while one may live to be 80 or 90 you will also have Alzheimer's, a degenerative disease, chronic long term illness and so forth that will prevent one from working. Cost of LTC is *not* cheap, and the longer you live there is a good chance you will outlive your assets.

Indeed the last point is becoming a huge worry for many near or at retirement today. Between poor planning (or no planning at all), the recent financial crisis, the housing crash and whole host of other reasons persons are finding the cupboard is bare.

Miss. Suzie Orman has a great new book and is making the rounds on PBS stations talking about the "New Financial America". Strongly urge people to at least see the PBS show if not read the book.

As for planning on SS to live on in one's retirement, the word on "the street" is don't.

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CrabbyPatty has 3 years experience and works as a mom, wife, pet keeper, landscaper, ICU RN.

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"nursing pension"???? Where do you get a nursing pension??? I want to work there!!!!!!

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Fiona59 has 18 years experience.

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"nursing pension"???? Where do you get a nursing pension??? I want to work there!!!!!!

Unionized Canada.

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CrabbyPatty has 3 years experience and works as a mom, wife, pet keeper, landscaper, ICU RN.

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Unionized Canada.

I work for a union in the US and I don't get a pension. I have a 401(k), but that ain't no pension!

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Hi Everyone,

I'm a student LVN and I started at the ripe old age of 65+ :yeah:.

My attitude is this "If Peggy Morris can do it, So Can I!"

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Leader25 has 35 years experience.

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I'm sorry that someone has to work at 81. It's just sad. I know it's going to become more and more common as many poised to retire now have no savings and those who will retire later will not have Social Security available. It's still a pity.

It is a disgrace that the richest country in the world is taking the bread away from it's senior citizns while we support so many lazy good for nothing having a baby every nine months breeders and many are not even legal,we send billions to stupid countries where women are mistreated, we misuse technology to save even the most futile no quality of life cases, we are creating a tax burden so great nothing will be able to save us not even working til 99.!!

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gettingbsn2msn has 5+ years experience and works as a RN.

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Does anyone realize that there will be zero resources for those of us in future years? We are using everything up now. There will be zero available in 10 plus years, if not sooner. I am glad Peggy wants to work but some people will not be able to, especially if they have back injuries from working so many years.

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whichone'spink has 3 years experience and works as a RN.

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It is a disgrace that the richest country in the world is taking the bread away from it's senior citizns while we support so many lazy good for nothing having a baby every nine months breeders and many are not even legal,we send billions to stupid countries where women are mistreated, we misuse technology to save even the most futile no quality of life cases, we are creating a tax burden so great nothing will be able to save us not even working til 99.!!

It's not just the poorer welfare queens. It's also the super rich corporate welfare queens who pay no more than 5% taxes, if anything at all.

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BrookeeLou_RN works as a disabled RN.

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I think it is fantastic she wants to work at 81, but it is a shame she HAS to work! My mom worked till 79, retired due to health and then passed within 4 mos. I remember her being disappointed as she wanted to work till she was 80,, her mind was sharp, it was the body that gave out. She was not a nurse but managed a multimillion dollar worldwide company. She worked because she said it kept her out of trouble. My father on the other hand retired at 53, and lived his dream of being able to play golf anytime he wanted.

The fact that this woman works 3- 12's is totally amazing. Kiddos to her:yeah:

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I'm disturbed by the assumption made by several posters that age causes a lack of acuity. A lot of the problems associated with age do, but not all elderly have those problems. There are young/er nurses who don't pay attention, aren't alert, and just not careful. I'd rather have a competent 81 yo over a complacent or uncaring young nurse any day. As for having to work at that age - she said she has a lot of hobbies, maybe they're expensive. I know an 81 yo flight attendant who still works because it keeps her active, though she often says it's because she has to. (And you'd never guess she is 81 - she is agile and quick and light on her feet - just looks like she's gotten a lot of sun!:)

I am inspired!

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DoGoodThenGo works as a Entrepreneur - Business Owner.

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It is a disgrace that the richest country in the world is taking the bread away from it's senior citizns while we support so many lazy good for nothing having a baby every nine months breeders and many are not even legal,we send billions to stupid countries where women are mistreated, we misuse technology to save even the most futile no quality of life cases, we are creating a tax burden so great nothing will be able to save us not even working til 99.!!

Whilst I do understand your sentiment one must understand the Protestant Ethic on which the United States was founded and indeed governed and or shaped much of it's laws and customs means one should provide for one's self. If in the end of things one's choices left the kitty bare in the winter of one's life, then that was *not* by and large the state's problem. Social Security was a huge lift, and had it not been for the Great Depression and the suffering wrought on the elderly by that event, it may never have come into being.

Much of the nurse in the OP's woes come from the old way of thinking that a female was to be provided for by a husband; both during his lifetime and after his death. A girl was supposed to tend her assets and choose her future to get a husband that was the best provider for herself and any children. There are many of us not *that* old who remember a time when no self respecting husband *let* his wife go out to work. I was seen as shameful to his male pride that he alone couldn't provide for his family.

Of course then as now women including married women went out to work either out of necessity or simply because they wanted to. However it has only been rather recently that females in this country have begun earning any *big money*. While women still earn on average 75 cents to each dollar a man brings in, the gap is closing.

For the nurse in the OP, during the time she was coming up employment choices open to women (which would have both contributed to her SS and finances) were few and paid very little. The two main areas, school teaching and nursing in particular whilst having decent respect within the community, pay was the pits. The other choice, going into a nunnery paid nothing!:D

Am not defending the position this nurse is in, but at least she was and is able to ameliorate her lot. There are plenty of women (and men for that matter) in the same position with few options.

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PacoUSA has 7 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a PCU Nurse.

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I don't understand why people are berating an 81-year-old still having to work. If it makes her happy, gives her a purpose in life and she remains competent at what she does, who are we to dictate that she should retire and live a life we think is more appropriate for someone her age? I find her a great role model for age being just a freaking number!

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