Published Dec 16, 2010
rene76
18 Posts
I'm at a bit of a crossroads. I worked as a medical secretary for 13 years, and a couple of years ago I decided to further my education so I'd make more money, and also because I enjoy the healthcare field and was a little bored in my current situation. I was trying to decided between a masters in healthcare administration or nursing, and I ultimately chose nursing because it seemed that job opportunities were endless. Fast forward two years, and I've gotten all my pre-reqs done, but I've read consistently on this board and other places that the bottom has fallen out of the nursing field, especically for new grads. I've all but decided to switch my major to healthcare admin. However, after looking on websites such as indeed.com or monster I see tons of job listings for new grads. Are these legit? And of course my advisor at my college is still telling me there's still a huge shortage. I'm just so torn on what to do, because all of the information out there is so conflicting. Both careers interst me, and I'd love to do either. But I really need to be able to land a good job when I'm done to pay off the loans I've taken out and begin a retirement plan ! I keep hearing that this problem is only temporary, but when you look at the numbers of graduates versus jobs it's slightly alarming. I can't help but wonder if this surplus is just a temporary thing or a sign of how things will be for quite some time....
Mrs.RN85
24 Posts
Sometimes on indeed the same position is posted numerous times.
CloudySky
41 Posts
I googled indeed dot com to see all the new grad jobs you mentioned listed and this is what I got....Another discussion of how there is no nurse shortage.
Nurse Jobs Forum - No Nursing Shortage! | Indeed.com
I know, I saw that discussion too! This is the link where I saw all the job postings. http://www.indeed.com/q-New-Grad-RN-jobs.html
Honestly, this whole thing makes me really angry. I feel lucky because the classes I've taken over the last 2 years I've been in school are generic core requirements, so I have other options. It's just a letdown because I was looking forward to being a nurse. But I feel really bad for the people that have gone through the program, put their life on hold and amassed a huge amount of debt, all thinking that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.
According to Nclex, in 2009 134,708 new applicants passed the boards. They're predicting >500,000 new jobs by 2020. But it doesn't say specifically that the jobs will go unfilled, just that their will be that many more new positions. With at least 134,000 people graduating per year, the numbers speak for themselves that there will be too many nurses! I know people leave the profession frequently, but I don't think reasonably that many people will leave so that there could be a shortage again.
NJMike
35 Posts
I googled indeed dot com to see all the new grad jobs you mentioned listed and this is what I got....Another discussion of how there is no nurse shortage.Nurse Jobs Forum - No Nursing Shortage! | Indeed.com
Wow. That link says a lot. It's tough for new grad RN's. I think you have to go into nursing because you love it because you will probably have to compete hard for a job as a new grad.
SC_RNDude
533 Posts
I know, I saw that discussion too! This is the link where I saw all the job postings. http://www.indeed.com/q-New-Grad-RN-jobs.htmlHonestly, this whole thing makes me really angry. I feel lucky because the classes I've taken over the last 2 years I've been in school are generic core requirements, so I have other options. It's just a letdown because I was looking forward to being a nurse. But I feel really bad for the people that have gone through the program, put their life on hold and amassed a huge amount of debt, all thinking that there was a light at the end of the tunnel. According to Nclex, in 2009 134,708 new applicants passed the boards. They're predicting >500,000 new jobs by 2020. But it doesn't say specifically that the jobs will go unfilled, just that their will be that many more new positions. With at least 134,000 people graduating per year, the numbers speak for themselves that there will be too many nurses! I know people leave the profession frequently, but I don't think reasonably that many people will leave so that there could be a shortage again.
Your search on ineed was a word search of "new grad RN". It looks like most of the postings say "not open to new grads" or "no new grads".
IMHO, I believe like like most other professions, the economy has hurt the new RN job market. When it gets better, hospitals will be more inclined to invest in new grads. Aso older RN's will want to work less hours or retire once they can afford to.
JeanettePNP, MSN, RN, NP
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MtBpsy9609
31 Posts
Sky, I started reading the comments from jobless RN's on the link you posted. Depressing.
SCnurse2010
112 Posts
The fact is, for ANY open position (new grad or not) there are tens or hundreds of people that want the job. If there are 10 positions posted, easily several hundred people are applying.
VanessaRN
88 Posts
Many of the postings that come up in the search at Indeed and other websites are a bit misleading. Like a previous poster said earlier, many are repeated, and even worse, many jobs descriptions today contain text that saying how new grads are not wanted. Unfortunately, this text comes up in the "new grad RN" search and results in showing you more positions that are NOT available to new grads, with very few that are actually open to new grads. It's pretty tough. This 2 min movie illustrates it quite well
BettyBoop01
171 Posts
I applied throughout the country for new grad postings, most told me they recieved hundreds of apps from all over the US within a few days. There are far more unemployed new grads than there are jobs and you have to be willing to move to get one. And for the record, type in "new grad rn" on indeed then actually read the postings. Some are the same ones you see over & over, they never get filled, ???? the majority of postings will say "no new grad" or "not open to new grad rn" etc etc
This 2 min movie illustrates it quite well .
I love it! Is this by the same author as "We Are Not Hiring"?