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49 minutes ago, Beerman said:Actually, she did take the bait. While, I won't disagree that it was a stupid question in that setting, her answer was just as ridiculous. She lied as to not upset the folks supposedly woke to this issue.
She didn't "take the bait". She was compelled to answer even the most ridiculous questions from the Republican Senators, as was painfully demonstrated during the hearings. What do you think her answer should have been...to not appear as ridiculous as the Senators thinking along those lines? Tell us...what would have qualified among Trump supporters as a reasonable response to that ridiculous question?
A Trump supporter calling the judge a liar is just entertainment at this point. That projection doesn't make Trump less of a liar or republican leadership more honest. It does reveal a deep double standard and hypocrisy among Trump supporters every single time.
1 hour ago, Beerman said:Actually, she did take the bait. While, I won't disagree that it was a stupid question in that setting, her answer was just as ridiculous. She lied as to not upset the folks supposedly woke to this issue.
That's an interesting interpretation.
My take is the opposite, in that she answered in a way that wouldn't upset the folks that are not woke to the issue. What if she said "a woman is not defined by the genitals one is born with, and gender is a construct invented by society, and a woman can have a member and transgendered people must have protections from discrimination and equal access" which is a true statement. She actually upset those of us who are woke to the issue by not taking the bait.
Unfortunately by such an odd answer she set herself up for being mocked and it backfired on her. But like I said, I rather appreciate her not taking the bait for such stupid question.
9 minutes ago, Tweety said:That's an interesting interpretation.
My take is the opposite, in that she answered in a way that wouldn't upset the folks that are not woke to the issue. What if she said "a woman is not defined by the genitals one is born with, and gender is a construct invented by society, and a woman can have a member and transgendered people non-discrimination legislation" which is a true statement. She actually upset those of us who are woke to the issue by not taking the bait.
Unfortunately by such an odd answer she set herself up for being mocked and it backfired on her. But like I said, I rather appreciate her not taking the bait for such stupid question.
People who aren't actually working on the SCOTUS dais never have to really do a deep dive into what a woman is - it's just water cooler chatter for most. She doesn't have the luxury of mindlessness since she will probably have to rule on issues related to transgenders in the future. Meanwhile the Republicans will avoid any hard legal realities by spouting the speech of the bearers of the fire torches in front of Frankenstein's house.
3 hours ago, Tweety said: if she said "a woman is not defined by the genitals one is born with, and gender is a construct invented by society, and a woman can have a member and transgendered people must have protections from discrimination and equal access" which is a true statement.
That statement is true, in your opinion
And, if she believed such a statement is true, why would she say a biologist is needed to define what a woman is?
1 hour ago, Beerman said:That statement is true, in your opinion
And, if she believed such a statement is true, why would she say a biologist is needed to define what a woman is?
I didn't mean to imply this is what she believes. It's what I believe. I asked "what if she said...". And obviously it's true, in my opinion. I didn't feel the need to add "in my opinion" but thanks for clarifying that for others who might not have caught that.
I don't know what she believes.
If she believes it takes a biologist to define what a woman is then certainly my definition wouldn't fit her mindset.
Her answer is upsetting to woke people so your claim that she lied to not upset woke people makes no sense.
Still part of me likes that she shut the transphobic question down. I wish she would have answered better though. Because clearly the mockery of "she doesn't even know what a woman is" isn't true.
To define a woman is to me complex. Saying "it's someone these certain chromosomes and a lady parts" doesn't quite define it. Just like "sperm donor" doesn't really define "what is a father".
Still saying "I don't know" does sound like a lie, I'll give you that. She'd been better off like those senators that were asked the same question and just say she wasn't going to answer. I get the mockery.
Mockery, like lies and propaganda, are a standard feature of Trump era republican politics. From Trump to the local elected officials riding his coattails to office and position, the ignorant public remarks, intolerant and bigoted language and the tendency toward rude and mocking discourse are not unsurprising findings. In fact, in some areas that level of interaction and communication is the standard rather than the outlier.
I do think with the advent of social media and the internet mockery is the standard and not just the realm of Trump and supporters. Look how much we mocked Sarah Palin ("I can see Russia"), look how much we mock Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I think I first noticed mocking's big effect is when the infamous yell by Howard Dean in 2004 destroyed his chances of being President. It certainly was cringeworthy, but people were over the top about it. He was just being himself and sincere.
But like I said, sometimes I understand the mocking. Such as Trump tweeting "covfefe" when he probably meant "coverage" and didn't admit to making a typo and all the funny memes that came afterwards.
10 hours ago, Tweety said:Still part of me likes that she shut the transphobic question down. I wish she would have answered better though. Because clearly the mockery of "she doesn't even know what a woman is" isn't true.
To define a woman is to me complex. Saying "it's someone these certain chromosomes and a lady parts" doesn't quite define it. Just like "sperm donor" doesn't really define "what is a father".
"Transphobic" question? How so?
Women, are roughly half the population of the world. Sperm donors, far far far less.
Not a good analogy.
2 hours ago, Beerman said:"Transphobic" question? How so?
Women, are roughly half the population of the world. Sperm donors, far far far less.
Not a good analogy.
Thanks for asking, but we've both made clear how we define a woman and I'd really like to stop going around in circles with you. Because you're not going to think it's a transphobic question.
I stand by the analogy that a father is more than a sperm donor just as a woman is more than a person with two X chromosomes.
I think it was a transphobic question. Ms. Blackburn was fishing.
“The fact that you can’t give me a straight answer about something as fundamental as what a woman is underscores the dangers of the kind of progressive education that we are hearing about,” she said. “Just last week, an entire generation of young girls watched as our taxpayer-funded institutions permitted a biological man to compete and be a biological woman in the N.C.A.A. swimming championships. What message do you think this sends to girls who aspire to compete and win in sports at the highest levels?”
Speaking of transgendered issues in the done of "the dangers...." is transphobic to me. They are to be feared as dangerous.
I think with her the fear isn't that she's soft on pedophiles or crime even though Marjorie Taylor Greene wants that to be the front issue by accusing GOP that are voting for her as being "pro-pedophile". The real fear is that if and when things like the "don't say gay" bill or changes in voting come to the Supreme Court it won't go their way.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/us/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-woman-definition.html
QuoteWhat, exactly, lies behind this madness? First, Greene is attempting to say Jackson’s record on sentencing child Mediaography possession offenders — which some Republicans have claimed is disconcertingly lenient despite the reality that her sentencing record is actually mainstream — is tantamount to the party embracing pedophiles. Secondly, Greene is trying to tie critics of what's been referred to as the “Don’t Say Gay” law in Florida, which bans some teaching about sexual orientation and gender identity, to the idea of being pro-pedophilia.
Ukraine braces for assault in east; Russian talk of civilian killings intercepted
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/07/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/
QuoteGermany’s foreign intelligence service claims to have intercepted radio communications in which Russian soldiers discuss indiscriminate killings in Ukraine. In two separate communications, Russian soldiers described how they question soldiers as well as civilians, and proceed to shoot them, according to an intelligence official familiar with the findings who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.
The findings, confirmed to The Washington Post by three people briefed on the information, undermine claims by Russia that atrocities — including in Bucha — are being carried out only after its soldiers leave occupied areas. The Washington Post saw beheaded and mutilated corpses in Bucha, bringing the scope of devastation into grim focus.
Is Tucker Carlson questioning the deaths in Bucha yet?
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Whenever I see on social media or hear in real life talk about Brown-Jackson they always go back to "and she can't even say what a woman is". Apparently there are t-shirts "I'm not a biologist" and it's the new "Let's Go Brandon".
Personally, I'm glad she didn't take that bait. It was a stupid question by a transphobic person. Apparently Republicans aren't taking the bait either but of course no one knows this.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-ketanji-brown-jackson-woman_n_624c9967e4b0d8266ab22274