What events after losing Temp. Permit, but already working as GN?

[Patrick Ash, BSN]

Good Day,

I am a GN with a temp. permit in PA. I was recently hired in the state and have a start date of the 21st. I haven't taken my NCLEX yet and am curious what will happen if I fail after my start date. From what I heard through HR, if I fail before my start date, it delays my hiring. Just wanted to see what others have experienced during this stressful time.

Thank You!

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

Your GN permit becomes null and void once NCLEX results are posted. You either become an RN if you pass or can no longer work as a GN if you fail. That is why many employers won’t hire GNs- if they fail, they are either terminated or (in few cases) transition to a CNA role. 

[Patrick Ash, BSN]

Ah, okay. So it's better to obviously just not fail, of course, but if I do, better to do so after being fully hired for the chance to slide into a CNA role instead of being jobless while waiting to retake.

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

 

 

PA BON:
NEW GRADUATE TEMPORARY PRACTICE PERMIT (TPP) INFORMATION

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• Applications for a Graduate TPP can be submitted during the 1-year period from completion of an approved nursing education program.

• The practice of nursing may begin after a TPP is issued by the Board. A TPP can be verified at www.PALS.pa.gov/verify

.• Once the licensure exam is taken, the following will occur:

1. on passing the exam and meeting all licensure requirements, a license will be issued and any TPP that was issued will be marked Null and Void.
2. on failing the exam, in PA, any TPP that was issued will automatically expire and all nursing practice under that license type must cease immediately.
3. on failing the exam, in any state or territory, an applicant is NOT eligible for a TPP.

• The graduate nurse who holds a TPP MAY ONLY practice under the supervision of an experienced Pennsylvania registered nurse who is physically present in the unit or area where the graduate nurse is practicing.

• A TPP may be extended for up to 1 year under certain circumstances by submitting the application found at www.dos.pa.gov/nurse

 

There has to be a budgeted nursing assistant/patient care assistant (PCA)/patient technician position open within a facility for you to apply. Many managers won't hire a new grad that hasn't passed NCLEX for they know as soon as one passes, will be looking for RN position, so they'd be back to square one hiring a tech --- one of those budget busting orientation costs if it repeatedly occurs.

Best to have slaying NCLEX first time as mindset to maximize your hiring chances.  Best wishes to you-- we need people to take Baby Boomer RN retiree positions --including mine in next 2 yrs. 

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[londonflo]

23 hours ago, Rose_Queen said:

That is why many employers won’t hire GNs- if they fail, they are either terminated or (in few cases) transition to a CNA role. 

 

23 hours ago, Patrick Donavon said:

So it's better to obviously just not fail, of course, but if I do, better to do so after being fully hired for the chance to slide into a CNA role instead of being jobless while waiting to retake.

But HR wants a GN. I wonder if there is any guarantee you could 'slide' into a CNA role...rather the institution may wish to hire another GN.

14 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

There has to be a budgeted nursing assistant/patient care assistant (PCA)/patient technician position open within a facility for you to apply. Many managers won't hire a new grad that hasn't passed NCLEX for they know as soon as one passes, will be looking for RN position, so they'd be back to square one hiring a tech --- one of those budget busting orientation costs if it repeatedly occurs.

Please, follow the link and Read the Nurse Practice Act for your state. Do this for any state you get a license in now and in the future. There is important information there which you may or may not need right now but an educated professional knows the legal tenets proscribed by their licensed occupation.