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URGENT: Are CDC Ebola Guidelines 'Good Enough'?

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Silly! This is just because Africa doesn't have running water. Or something like that.

Actually, the lethal pathogen called Ebola makes them dress up like that. You know, the one that infected two RNs in Texas, who DID have running water.

"Sean G. Kaufman, who oversaw infection control at Emory University Hospital while it treated Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, the first two American Ebola patients, called the earlier C.D.C. guidelines “absolutely irresponsible and dead wrong.”

Emory also has running water, from what I hear.

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WONDERFUL!!! Thank you so much for this thoughtful and thought-provoking information.

I keep getting this pervasive visual re: Ebola...... A bullring filled with 'suits' and administrators yelling simultaneous instructions down to the nurse who is actually engaged in the bullfight... "move to the left". "policy requires you to use the pink cape" "Don't run until the bull is 10 feet away" "research indicates that the bull will tire in 20-30 minutes". . . They're citing lab conditions while we're the ones dealing with the reality of the horns of the bull.

Where's the public acknowledgement of the courage and bravery of these heroic nurses who continue to exemplify the best of the best in our profession? Nina and Amber should receive Congressional Medals of Honor instead of being accused of breaching protocol and blaming them for their own life-threatening infections.

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Actually, the lethal pathogen called Ebola makes them dress up like that. You know, the one that infected two RNs in Texas, who DID have running water.

"Sean G. Kaufman, who oversaw infection control at Emory University Hospital while it treated Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, the first two American Ebola patients, called the earlier C.D.C. guidelines “absolutely irresponsible and dead wrong.”

Emory also has running water, from what I hear.

I was being sarcastic, because isn't that the CDC's argument to why more garb is needed for the people working in Africa and transporting patients from Africa?

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Where's the public acknowledgement of the courage and bravery of these heroic nurses who continue to exemplify the best of the best in our profession? Nina and Amber should receive Congressional Medals of Honor instead of being accused of breaching protocol and blaming them for their own life-threatening infections.

And there are people who indignantly wonder why many of us WON'T throw ourselves in front of the Ebola Bus for a random patient......

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And there are people who indignantly wonder why many of us WON'T throw ourselves in front of the Ebola Bus for a random patient......

Whose family will then turn around and sue while the hospital's staff is fighting for their lives.

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firstinfamily has 33 years experience as a RN.

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Hospitals in this north-eastern section of MD have not given any instructions to nursing staff or any hospital staff in dealing with Ebola. Do they not think it is coming here?? From what I have seen and understood, there are only four top hospitals in the country that can treat this virus, and they are having problems, so does that mean that if it cannot be treated there, it will not be treated elsewhere, or that the smaller hospitals will only have to deal with it when it shows up----at which point that is way too late. Are the hospitals getting some form of financial reimbursement for the extra expenditures the PPE is going to cost?? We are going to be dealing with this for a very long time. Yes, I think all of us should write our congressmen/women and elect Nina and Amber for congressional medals of honor. There is more than one type of battle to be won here.

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Thank you for your well supported with evidence post on Ebola virus. We as nurses and healthcare providers ought to know this valuable information... We as nurses have to look out for each other since we are in the front line in battling this deadly disease. Again your post is much appreciated!!!

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Doctors without borders, who have the most experience in dealing with ebola, have had 16 of their staff infected with 9 dying. Even with all the precautions this is risky business but the CDC's recommendations are not evidence based. It's not like they couldn't have seen this was coming.

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I was being sarcastic, because isn't that the CDC's argument to why more garb is needed for the people working in Africa and transporting patients from Africa?

Sorry, Blondy! I thought you were a hospital administrator or a govt official.

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MissyWrite has 25 years experience and specializes in RN, CHPN.

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Doctors without borders, who have the most experience in dealing with ebola, have had 16 of their staff infected with 9 dying. Even with all the precautions this is risky business but the CDC's recommendations are not evidence based.

DWB has cared for 4,000 Ebola patients, and 16 have been infected.

The hospital in Texas had one Ebola patient, and 2 nurses were infected.

To compare the two, if that hospital cared for 4,000 patients, and their track record stayed the same, they would have 8,000 infected staff.

Dallas, we have a problem. A big problem.

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And there are people who indignantly wonder why many of us WON'T throw ourselves in front of the Ebola Bus for a random patient......

There is a belief that nurses should be selfless martyrs. Do firemen run into a fire without the right protective gear? No, and no one would expect them to.

If I ask you to imagine a fireman, what image comes to mind? The protective suit and hardhat.

Now imagine a swat team officer, and you'll probably see someone with a gun, body armor, and a helmet.

I expect and deserve to be given the right protection for my job, too. There will still be some risk involved, but at least it will be the least risk possible.

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MissyWrite has 25 years experience and specializes in RN, CHPN.

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If anyone was asked to imagine a fireman, this image would probably come to mind:

If anyone was asked to imagine a swat team officer, this image would probably come to mind:

As a nurse, I expect and deserve to be given the right protection for my job, too. There will still be some risk involved, but at least it will be the least risk possible.

Why would hospital administrators or the CDC or anyone else have a problem understanding this?

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