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Unsolicited Advice From A Preceptor

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by Izzy11 Izzy11, NP (Member)

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We all understand the difficulty in finding preceptors. Now that I have started precepting students, I understand why. Here is some unsolicited advice to NP on appropriate behavior during clinicals. You are reading page 3 of Unsolicited Advice From A Preceptor. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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My post was about our AGPCNP program and identifying preceptors.

In response to your assumptions about programs that do not provide preceptors, be assured, that in order to maintain CCNE accreditation, all NP programs vet their preceptors and clinical sites, regardless of whether faculty or students identify them.

As well, CCNE and NONPF require a minimum of one site visit, preferably two, with the student and preceptor every semester, whether in-person or virtually, via Skype, FaceTime etc

Although it may appear that there are NP students out there flapping on their own, accredited programs will keep close tabs on preceptor-student relationships in order to provide an optimal learning experience and to maintain accreditation.

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subee has 45 years experience as a MSN, CRNA.

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How can they vet preceptors that the students haven't even found yet?

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Although it may appear that there are NP students out there flapping on their own, accredited programs will keep close tabs on preceptor-student relationships in order to provide an optimal learning experience and to maintain accreditation.

NP students are out there flapping in the wind, whether you want to believe it or not. The amount of time spent trying to secure a preceptor is ridiculous. Also, some preceptors are just not acceptable. If you surveyed students in the programs are graduated, how many do you think have seen a faculty at their clinical site? It is well known that some of the faculty do not even live in the same state. The lack of support for students is quite disturbing.

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I would have given student three a break. As a current student I would rather make up a day of clinical because I needed to pass a course and had to have study time then to have spent a semester wasting a preceptors time because I did poorly on a test. I have been told that I do really well in the clinical setting but I have horrible scores on my test's. Its not that I don't study or know information its that I test poorly. Should #3 have known that this was not acceptable for your after having spent many days with you? Maybe but maybe not. Also he was honest with you and could have just lied with a family emergency and you would have never known the difference. As for a previous poster that stated that test schedules come out at the beginning of the semester yes they do but I had my instructor change all of our dates all semester long. It made for a very stressful semester that I have no desire to repeat. Your student likely weighed the benefit of one hours worth of clinical learning versus the 4 or 5 hours of study time and what would help him most in the semester.

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Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I am a third semester NP student and am committed and hungry for insight from preceptors about expectations. I am shocked by the behavior of the students who were late and disrespectful, and appreciate that you are obviously still willing to support students.

I would love to hear more about what you recommend for students. Sadly, I go to PA sites (and the profession even has a book for PA clinical students for guidance) for insight about preparing for my clinical time. It's a struggle to find in-depth information from NPs about this topic. Thank you.

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During my pediatric rotation my preceptor was the one that was unprofessional. Not once but twice she was gone for a week at a time and never said a word to me. Luckily, another provider took pity on me and took me on. One of these weeks was also when my faculty came to observe and evaluate me. Sometimes, professionalism needs to be revisited by students and working NPs alike.

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subee has 45 years experience as a MSN, CRNA.

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During my pediatric rotation my preceptor was the one that was unprofessional. Not once but twice she was gone for a week at a time and never said a word to me. Luckily, another provider took pity on me and took me on. One of these weeks was also when my faculty came to observe and evaluate me. Sometimes, professionalism needs to be revisited by students and working NPs alike.

Was that person an employee of your university or randomly selected? You have options when they are program affiliated.

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Palliative Care, DNP specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

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Was that person an employee of your university or randomly selected? You have options when they are program affiliated.

My program provided zero assistance with finding preceptors unless you were located in Louisiana where the school is located. I found all of my preceptors some good and some not so much. This is my biggest argument for students finding their own preceptors. We are so desperate that we end up taking whoever says yes. Begging is not networking nor professional. I would not advise my own children to go the NP route but to choose another path or healthcare career due to this.

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