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Understanding the Risk of Firearms: Suicide vs. Homicide

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Gun violence is a hot topic these days. Turn on the TV for any length of time, and you will hear stories of firearm homicide. But, did you know that firearm suicide is more common in the U.S? Learn about the statistics of this public health issue and if nurses have a role in the firearms debate. You are reading page 7 of Understanding the Risk of Firearms: Suicide vs. Homicide. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

MunoRN has 10 years experience and works as a Critical Care.

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It's not even a secret that both moms against gun violence and the parkland "survivors" are funded by Michael Bloomberg. David Hogg was / is not a "survivor" of the parkland shooting, he was at home when it happened. Giffords is literally a puppet of her money-chasing husband - this has all been well documented. And the Brady campaign is still "handgun control inc", with the same agenda today that they had in 1975.

I'm a gun owner and supporter of the second amendment, and it's people like you who are the biggest threat to the preservation of rights for gun owners. As a sort of separate issue, your contention that David Hogg was "at home" during the shooting, which has been well debunked, as well as putting Parkland "sruvivors" in quotes minimizes and discounts what kids go through in these situations, which makes you a generally horrible human being.

There's no need for a "conversation" that involves only one side sacrificing their constitutional rights.

The best protection of the second amendment is not to overplay our hand, which is what people like you do. The second amendment protects the rights of law-abiding gun owners to own guns which are primarily for a lawful purpose. None of the commonly proposed 'gun control' laws violate these rights, and it's these measures that will best protect the second amendment.

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It's not even a secret that both moms against gun violence and the parkland "survivors" are funded by Michael Bloomberg. David Hogg was / is not a "survivor" of the parkland shooting, he was at home when it happened. Giffords is literally a puppet of her money-chasing husband - this has all been well documented. And the Brady campaign is still "handgun control inc", with the same agenda today that they had in 1975.

There's no need for a "conversation" that involves only one side sacrificing their constitutional rights.

"Survivors" in quotes? Are you implying the shooting at Parkland was a hoax? Do you realize how despicable you sound?

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OK...here goes. I've said it before and I'm saying it now. Regardless of your point of view about the subject, guns in the US are here to stay, and the best route forward is to deal with those who will use them to try and kill innocent people. Regardless of regulation, guns will be available to bad guys, good guys, and the entire spectrum of guys between those book ends. I believe once we stop trying to control the guns and wholeheartedly concentrate on the woefully lacking mental health climate in the US we can make a difference in the senseless loss of life and grief as has been inflicted to now.

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BCgradnurse has 9 years experience and works as a Allergy and Asthma NP.

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It's not even a secret that both moms against gun violence and the parkland "survivors" are funded by Michael Bloomberg. David Hogg was / is not a "survivor" of the parkland shooting, he was at home when it happened. Giffords is literally a puppet of her money-chasing husband - this has all been well documented. And the Brady campaign is still "handgun control inc", with the same agenda today that they had in 1975.

There's no need for a "conversation" that involves only one side sacrificing their constitutional rights.

This is one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read.

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Thanks, Tomi.

I'm sure that fact gives a lot of comfort to the parents of the babies who died at Sandy Hook, or my personal friend, who's daughter was killed in the Santa Fe High School shooting last May.

It doesn't stand for Assault Rifle?? Well, THAT'S sure as **** a relief!

Klone-

If you are referring to "Tomi" as in the Tommy Gun that would constitute an example of a fully automated rifle. They were around during prohibition and no, I'm not related to Al Capone. I did get a laugh at the spelling if that was your intention.

I am sorry for your loss Klone. I'm sorry for everyone that was affected by the shootings. I'm pretty sure my words of sorrow do not offer any comfort to those you speak of just as my clarification of what AR actually stands for doesn't either. That was the point of my post you quoted. It has an undeserved reputation due to mislabeling, assumption, lack of understanding and/or education et al. That was my intent.

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klone has 13 years experience as a MSN, RN and works as a Director of OB Services.

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Klone-

If you are referring to "Tomi" as in the Tommy Gun that would constitute an example of a fully automated rifle. They were around during prohibition and no, I'm not related to Al Capone. I did get a laugh at the spelling if that was your.

No, I was referring to Tomi Lahren, and her infamous "Geez, stupid lefties, AR doesn't mean Assault Rifle" tweet, as if that REALLY makes a difference in this debate. What it's called and what the letters stand for doesn't change what it is.

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"Survivors" in quotes? Are you implying the shooting at Parkland was a hoax? Do you realize how despicable you sound?

It is quite despicable that within hours of both the sandy hook and parkland shootings those who had an agenda were flying in schills and public relations hacks toplay a pre-recorded script that advocated abridging our rights. The proposed laws were already written. The "victims" were and are interchangeable. The agenda was waiting for the opportunity to be aired. Those facts can't be debunked. Read the stories about the "help" the parkland students received & how long that help took to arrive.

If the "victims" are interchangeable, their message isn't organic or grassroots- it's AstroTurf.

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klone has 13 years experience as a MSN, RN and works as a Director of OB Services.

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Please, out of a basic sense of decency, stop putting "victims" in quotes. There are people HERE at this website, reading and participating in this thread, who lost friends or family in these shootings. To suggest that these lost lives are fictional is despicable and gross.

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Jedrnurse has 25 years experience as a BSN, RN and works as a school nurse.

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It's not even a secret that both moms against gun violence and the parkland "survivors" are funded by Michael Bloomberg. David Hogg was / is not a "survivor" of the parkland shooting, he was at home when it happened. Giffords is literally a puppet of her money-chasing husband - this has all been well documented. And the Brady campaign is still "handgun control inc", with the same agenda today that they had in 1975.

There's no need for a "conversation" that involves only one side sacrificing their constitutional rights.

You could probably make an argument for your side without resorting to trotting out base propaganda lies...

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You could probably make an argument for your side without resorting to trotting out base propaganda lies...

Please show me where the lies are?

David Hogg, et al is controlled & funded by Shannon Watts, who is on Michael Bloomberg's payroll. One big check-writer, multiple AstroTurf organizations.

Gun-control groups seize on Parkland shooting to build a bigger movement

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OK...here goes. I've said it before and I'm saying it now. Regardless of your point of view about the subject, guns in the US are here to stay, and the best route forward is to deal with those who will use them to try and kill innocent people. Regardless of regulation, guns will be available to bad guys, good guys, and the entire spectrum of guys between those book ends. I believe once we stop trying to control the guns and wholeheartedly concentrate on the woefully lacking mental health climate in the US we can make a difference in the senseless loss of life and grief as has been inflicted to now.

Guns are here to stay. I'm not here to speak in place of every gun control advocate, but as much as I would love to abolish them, we'd never get rid of them all. There is simply too many. And there are people who are responsible gun owners; I have several family out in the Midwest who are avid hunters, and they are responsible gun owners in the truest, law abiding way possible.

But.

"Once we stop trying to control the guns and wholeheartedly concentrate on the woefully lacking mental health climate in the US" - it isn't *just* mental health. I started my career in psych, work per diem 1-3x/week in psych (inpatient and ED) and was a teacher before this. We have woefully inadequate mental health services in this country. We are packed to the gills in the ED (we had people in the halls earlier in the week, which is normal) and currently full in inpatient.

But it's not JUST mental health. And this is why we can't make a difference. We need to control aspects of guns - sorry, it's true. People DON'T need lots and lots of guns; the more guns out there in circulation, the more likely the bad guys can get them. Or high rounds/minute - more people die. Or whatever.

Bowing out of this debate.

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1. The "bad guys " (used as an umbrella term) will always find a way to possess a firearm. They do not/will not follow any type of law. I am stating the obvious.

2. Automatic guns, which have been banned for purchase since 1986 I believe, and are the type of guns used by the military only, are often lumped in with semi-automatic guns. The wording is not interchangeable.

3. AR does NOT stand for Assault/Automatic Rifle. It is a brand name, Armalite. This is a redundant fact that still somehow causes confusion even though it's been stated a billion and one times.

4. I am all for complete and thorough background checks. My state is notoriously difficult to obtain a license in.

5. Mental health options/availability is severely lacking, as is addiction treatment facilities.

6. I have my LTC concealed.

7. I also own an "AR" type platform rifle that only fires as fast as I can pull the trigger. That is not considered an assault rifle by any means though it still somehow causes confusion as certain groups will directly or indirectly have people believe.

8. The only reason I do not own an actual AR-15 is because my state banned them without any forewarning to licensed carriers and FFL dealers.

9. This post is just a reflection of my thoughts at the moment.....I am not looking for a debate here.

Keep coming back to number 3.

We know. Who cares?

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