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The state of TX has a new law that provides for anybody to get a $10,000 bounty by suing any person discussing or assisting a woman in any way to have an abortion after six weeks, I.e., before many women even know they are pregnant. The burden is on the person sued to deny it, and if they win they cannot recover their legal costs. This means a driver, a friend to whom a woman confided, someone who bought her a bus ticket, a vindictive ex, clergy, a clinic receptionist, a neighbor you don’t like, a competitor, a restaurant where you didn’t like the service, a ref whose call you didn’t like … all open to being sued by anyone, and the burden on them to refute. Your rapist could impregnate you and then sue you. There are no exceptions for incest, pregnant children, or rape. There are obvious constitutional difficulties with this, information on which can be found in many sources. The SCOTUS declined to block it for the nonce, but have NOT invalidated Roe v Wade and are awaiting further suits.
A private group has put up a website where anonymous people can report any “suspicious” cases, which they will then refer to authorities…and I’ll bet they’ll expect to get the ten grand for every one. It is presently being flooded by fake reports, many hilarious. It’s taken off on Tik-Tok and Twitter at pic.Twitter.com/xgpvESdc5b If you’d like to join the fun, you can. Goto https://prolifewhistleblower.com/ and let your creativity flower as often as you like.
1 hour ago, heron said:Well, men and their difficulties with their feelings are not my priority. I raised a son, so I’ve paid my pound of flesh. You’re on your own, toots.
Meanwhile, if men are unwilling to challenge their Neanderthal brothers, they have no business telling women what we need to do.
Where are the Bernie Bros? Seems like this would be right up their progressive alley.
My sentiments exactly! They absolutely need to stay in their own lane. We don't even look after our own health properly but they feel it's necessary to dictate to women.
Wish I understood why? I would think that the more self esteem you encourage in someone, the better they are able to help you through their confidence.
So now that Texas and the republicans have decided that women are essentially objects that can be informed upon by anybody or traded for money by anyone in any state etc, do you think that they are going to go full Handmaid's Tale and start assigning you guys to prominent republican leaders so you can be fruitful and multiply?
Any of you guys thinking about going Offred and just going to Canada?
It's what happens when you vote for people giving them control of your lives!
On 9/3/2021 at 2:28 PM, macawake said:Listen, I don’t really think it’s cowardice as much as wanting to play by the rules. They see how utterly morally bankrupt today’s Trumpian version of what was once the GOP is, and they don’t want to be them, or be seen as being like them. I think they are trying to preserve an amount of decency and integrity instead of stooping to the same levels as the Trump Cult members. They are trying to be ”the good guys”.
But like you, I think they are making a tactical error and I think it might actually cost you your democracy. It will certainly deprive women, minorities and LGBTQ of many hard-earned rights and protections.
”When they go low, we go high” only works when you’re dealing with people who are not completely amoral. When dealing with that ilk, the best thing to do is to place a swift, strategically aimed figurative kick in their ?s. If I’m allowed to generalize a bit, I think that the major handicap that Democratic politicians have is naivety [emphasis added].
et tu macawake?
I previously thought you a voice of reason on these boards. However, you seem to have crossed the generalization of all Republicans as scum.
Thus is indeed a sad day
48 minutes ago, chare said:et tu macawake?
I previously thought you a voice of reason on these boards. However, you seem to have crossed the generalization of all Republicans as scum.
Thus is indeed a sad day
That's not what was posted but is, rather, your feelings about what was posted.
1 hour ago, chare said:No, that is exactly what was posted. However, I'll wait for @macawake to respond. She can clarify exactly whst she was saying.
I honestly think that you are looking to feel offended here. Are you saying that for example Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are welcomed with open arms in the GOP of today? It seems to me that if you don’t worship at the altar of Trump, the Republican party doesn’t want you. The party has changed. QAnon loony tunes are welcome, Abraham Lincoln had he still been alive probably wouldn’t be. You shouldn’t take that to believe that I think all Conservatives are Trumpists. I don’t and I never said it.
30 minutes ago, macawake said:I honestly think that you are looking to feel offended here. Are you saying that for example Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are welcomed with open arms in the GOP of today? It seems to me that if you don’t worship at the altar of Trump, the Republican party doesn’t want you. The party has changed. QAnon loony tunes are welcome, Abraham Lincoln had he still been alive probably wouldn’t be. You shouldn’t take that to believe that I think all Conservatives are Trumpists. I don’t and I never said it.
If one makes generic claims, that in my opinion, paint all Republicans with the same brush, I can only respond to what is posted.
I agree that some in the Republican party have changed, and that many seem to think this is representative of all Republicans and this is where I have a problem.
You say that you don't think all conservatives are Trumpists, I will take you at your word, and thank you for that.
Having said that, I think I will follow most of the conservative members here, and leave the political forums to those on the left.
Strikes colors and withdraws from field of battle.
On 9/4/2021 at 5:49 AM, heron said:Well, men and their difficulties with their feelings are not my priority. I raised a son, so I’ve paid my pound of flesh. You’re on your own, toots.
Meanwhile, if men are unwilling to challenge their Neanderthal brothers, they have no business telling women what we need to do.
Where are the Bernie Bros? Seems like this would be right up their progressive alley.
I'm keeping my mouth shut. As a white male I am blamed for telling women what to do with their bodies and am shamed for my silence. You're on your own toots.
17 hours ago, chare said:If one makes generic claims, that in my opinion, paint all Republicans with the same brush, I can only respond to what is posted.
I agree that some in the Republican party have changed, and that many seem to think this is representative of all Republicans and this is where I have a problem.
You say that you don't think all conservatives are Trumpists, I will take you at your word, and thank you for that.
Having said that, I think I will follow most of the conservative members here, and leave the political forums to those on the left.
Strikes colors and withdraws from field of battle.
I’m still not sure why you found my post ambiguous. I wasn’t being generic. I was attempting to be precise. I said Trump cult members. And I said ”today’s Trumpian version of what was once the GOP”. Why would you think that means every Republican or every Conservative? Do you seriously think that there is any doubt which faction is in control of the Republican party today?
If you haven’t aligned yourself with the lies, denial of facts and general anti-Americanism of the cult members, (and I don’t think you have), why would you even feel that I meant you or meant to include every Republican? Do you support what happened on January 6? Are you spreading the lie that the election was in fact won by Trump and stolen from him? If that isn’t you, I wasn’t talking about you. I never thought that was you so I’m not sure why you even Julius Caesared me. I never started a battle with you. No need to withdraw.
heron, ASN, RN
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Well, men and their difficulties with their feelings are not my priority. I raised a son, so I’ve paid my pound of flesh. You’re on your own, toots.
Meanwhile, if men are unwilling to challenge their Neanderthal brothers, they have no business telling women what we need to do.
Where are the Bernie Bros? Seems like this would be right up their progressive alley.