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I am a Practical Nursing Instructor. I have had a transgender accepted into my program. He/she is a cross dresser, presents as a female but has male sex organs. I had no control over this person getting in based on numbers only. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should we allow a nurse to take care of the patients who misrepresents their sex? I feel that it is wrong. Nursing is much too personal at times.

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You have "Gaydar", too?

LOL...I read back over my post and realized that my wording was a bit, uh, presumptious. What I meant to say is that there are gay men and women who keep a very tight lid on their sexuality (my ex boyfriend did that VERY WELL!!!!) and there are those who are quite flamboyant about it. I'm usually right about the flamboyant ones (although on occasion, I have guessed someone was gay and they weren't) and sometimes correct on the ones who are hush-hush about it. I remember when I was dating my ex back in high school, people would ask me why I was dating a gay guy. I would look at them as though they had 3 heads and say my boyfriend was NOT gay. But now, looking back, I realize that I might have been blinded by puppy love. And he was in the denial mode of his sexuality. Once he moved from the town we grew up in to Las Vegas, he let himself admit his true feelings. He has been with the same man for at least the past 6 years and is a lot happier now than when he was "pretending" to be straight. What's funny is that most of the girls who knew him had a huge crush on him! :D

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Karen aka kwagner_51, you may call yourself a "Christian". But there's one word for people like you: homophobe.

I'm not even going to discuss this further because if I haven't already, I would violate the TOS.

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Originally posted by Erin RN

Well I guess I have no problem with someone being a religious zealot, either. AS LONG AS THEY KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES.

Igflamini

You said it well...

When I delivered my last child I had a nurse that was overly zealous in the religion dept..Now mind you, I am a spiritual person but I finally had enough and requested she be removed from the room..In the way that only preg woman in transitional labor could :D . She kept saying, "Lets pray for the baby" and taking my hands and praying..she would then mark on the strip where she had prayed for my child.. I thought it was nice but strange the first time but after multiple "prayer sessions " I was irritated. I filed a complaint against her since her behavior was completely inappropriate. For one thing she scared the cr** out of me that something was going on, on that strip that I didn't know about....My friend works in L and D at that hospital and the nurse was eventually let go for "praying for a baby's soul" since the mother was young and not married...sorry to get off subject but the remarks of an instructor imposing her beliefs on a student brought it back..:) Erin

Oh my (dare I say it?) God. That woman was totally inappropriate. I wonder how many other people she intimidated and harassed with her behavior? I'm glad that you didn't allow her to do it to you.

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Sharon

Pretty crazy huh? My labor was very long but not complicated and the baby was fine so I am guessing this was just how she practiced. My husband, who is not particularly religious was looking at me like "WTH??" I told her to get the H*** out of my room..she probably went out to the nurses station and prayed for all of our souls after that. I was happy to hear that she was let go..she made me very uncomfortable....

Erin

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RNntraining1973,I had the same thing happen to me. Dated a guy in high school for 2 years.Everyone used to tell me he wasn't straight,but I never saw it.He moved to Las Vegas and found me on the internet years later.He informed me he is indeed gay and has been happy in a relationship for years.He also told me I helped to make him that way,whatever that was supposed to mean.I was born in 1973.Wierd coincidence!:eek:

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Erin,

What that nurse did was WRONG!!! I do not 'force' my faith on anyone. I too am glad she was let go! If I had been in your shoes, with her praying and all, I too would have been frightened!!

The only reason I stated my opinion was because everyone was condemning the instructor. Whether we admit it or not, everyone of us judges someone/something everyday.

Tweety, I am NOT a homophobe. I was MARRIED to a homosexual. [unknown to me of course]. My daughter's friend has been in my home and has eaten with us. The ONLY reason she is no longer his friend is because he lied to her over and over. She started to get self righteous and indignant about him and I cooled her jets really fast. That is what my comment meant when I said she couldn't judge all homosexuals by her interaction with him.

I didn't mean to offend anyone with my comments. In fact I posted too soon and didn't realize that the first part of my post was still on the board. :imbar

I do not have 'gaydar' so I just take everyone at face value. If the person can do their job, fine. I have no problems with that. What they do while not working is none of my business. Whether they are hetrosexual or homosexual. To each his own.

I think I may have misunderstood the OP. I thought she said that the guy was dressing male and female. My original question was, why did he even mention it?

I am sorry if I hurt anyone or offended anyone. That was NOT my intentions. I also didn't mean to post that the guy was 'living in sin'. We all do that everyday. YES even me!! :D

Please forgive me> I didn't mean to hurt anyone.

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Originally posted by kwagner_51

Erin,

What that nurse did was WRONG!!! I do not 'force' my faith on anyone. I too am glad she was let go! If I had been in your shoes, with her praying and all, I too would have been frightened!!

The only reason I stated my opinion was because everyone was condemning the instructor. Whether we admit it or not, everyone of us judges someone/something everyday.

Tweety, I am NOT a homophobe. I was MARRIED to a homosexual. [unknown to me of course]. My daughter's friend has been in my home and has eaten with us. The ONLY reason she is no longer his friend is because he lied to her over and over. She started to get self righteous and indignant about him and I cooled her jets really fast. That is what my comment meant when I said she couldn't judge all homosexuals by her interaction with him.

I didn't mean to offend anyone with my comments. In fact I posted too soon and didn't realize that the first part of my post was still on the board. :imbar

I do not have 'gaydar' so I just take everyone at face value. If the person can do their job, fine. I have no problems with that. What they do while not working is none of my business. Whether they are hetrosexual or homosexual. To each his own.

I think I may have misunderstood the OP. I thought she said that the guy was dressing male and female. My original question was, why did he even mention it?

I am sorry if I hurt anyone or offended anyone. That was NOT my intentions. I also didn't mean to post that the guy was 'living in sin'. We all do that everyday. YES even me!! :D

Please forgive me> I didn't mean to hurt anyone.

Karen, thanks for coming back and clarifying your comments.

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Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

I don't understand them either Tom.

But there's a lot I don't understand. I don't understand Muslims, I don't understand football players, I don't understand Republicans.

What don't you understand about Muslims?

Casey

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Originally posted by caseyspen

Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

I don't understand them either Tom.

But there's a lot I don't understand. I don't understand Muslims, I don't understand football players, I don't understand Republicans.

What don't you understand about Muslims?

Casey

Islam is something I know nothing about. When I say I don't understand them, I don't mean it in a negative way. Just don't have any knowledge of the faith. :)

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kwagner_51, you are entitled to your beliefs. I appreciate the many Christians who allow for fairness to override any feelings they have about a person living in sin. We all must live with persons of different faiths, lifestyles, and sexual preferences. In order to live in this great country one must be fair to all. One religion can't dictate the rules.

As for your question as to why people must come out, it certainly isn't attention seeking, although it does draw attention to one's self.

I am out of the closet because it was in my lifetime that gay people were considered mentally ill. It was in my lifetime that gay people were gathered up in gay bars and thrown in jail. It was in my lifetime that tens of thousands of gay men died needlessly while a government did nothing and "Christians" called it just. I could go on and on.

It's through coming out and demanding equality and fairness that things have begun to change. I could not care less if you or anyone else is uncomfortable with that.

I've been beat up, spit upon, laughed at, preached to, and looked down upon and I'm not internalizing any of that and hiding whom I choose to love.

End of rant. :)

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Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

kwagner_51, you are entitled to your beliefs. I appreciate the many Christians who allow for fairness to override any feelings they have about a person living in sin. We all must live with persons of different faiths, lifestyles, and sexual preferences. In order to live in this great country one must be fair to all. One religion can't dictate the rules.

As for your question as to why people must come out, it certainly isn't attention seeking, although it does draw attention to one's self.

I am out of the closet because it was in my lifetime that gay people were considered mentally ill. It was in my lifetime that gay people were gathered up in gay bars and thrown in jail. It was in my lifetime that tens of thousands of gay men died needlessly while a government did nothing and "Christians" called it just. I could go on and on.

It's through coming out and demanding equality and fairness that things have begun to change. I could not care less if you or anyone else is uncomfortable with that.

I've been beat up, spit upon, laughed at, preached to, and looked down upon and I'm not internalizing any of that and hiding whom I choose to love.

End of rant. :)

Tweety, i just love your posts! :kiss Honestly tho, i'm so sorry these things have happened to you in your lifetime. It truly makes me sad that other human beings act this way. We can all live together and not agree with each other and our choices/preferences, ya know? Why people have to be hateful, violent, and vengeful in the name of "Christ" is beyond me. (not just Christians, but you know what i mean.)

Anyway, i just wanted you to know that i'm happy you are content and happy with yourself and how you live your life. Bravo for you!!!!! And i am sure if you were ever my nurse, i'd be honored to have you care for me!!!

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Originally posted by SnowymtnRN

Tweety, i just love your posts! :kiss Honestly tho, i'm so sorry these things have happened to you in your lifetime. It truly makes me sad that other human beings act this way. We can all live together and not agree with each other and our choices/preferences, ya know? Why people have to be hateful, violent, and vengeful in the name of "Christ" is beyond me. (not just Christians, but you know what i mean.)

Anyway, i just wanted you to know that i'm happy you are content and happy with yourself and how you live your life. Bravo for you!!!!! And i am sure if you were ever my nurse, i'd be honored to have you care for me!!!

Thanks so much. I'm so glad I'm a nurse, because I've found a profession where for the most part I am accepted for the excellent nurse that I am. Nurses in general are very tolerant people. We have to be in order to be effective caregivers to a diverse population of patients don't you think?

I have a very healthy self-esteem today. I'm know I'm worthy of equality and I know that I'm a damn good nurse. I'd take excellent care of you SnowymtnRN regardless of who I sleep with. :)

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