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I am a Practical Nursing Instructor. I have had a transgender accepted into my program. He/she is a cross dresser, presents as a female but has male sex organs. I had no control over this person getting in based on numbers only. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should we allow a nurse to take care of the patients who misrepresents their sex? I feel that it is wrong. Nursing is much too personal at times.
I want a white nurse I want a black nurse I want a male nurse I want a female nurse
Your dying and I am the only floor nurse availible. Then you die. where is your logic then.
Your laying there bleeding to death Oh No I cant give critical care because Im not wanted. As long as you write your orders down and sign them If you have the time left
I guess your ok. You have the compassion of a KKK member And the common sense of a rock. A nurse is a nurse sex religon creed color does not matter 40 or 50 years ago Black doctors and nurses didnt treat the white folk Now African American doctors and nurses treat any patient that has a need. Health Care is about healing treating and comforting Improving the quality of life for others But there will always be people like you I understand that but you are supposed to be a professional. I bet you treat patient of different origins as lesser being to. I pity your patients.
I want a white nurse I want a black nurse I want a male nurse I want a female nurseYour dying and I am the only floor nurse availible. Then you die. where is your logic then.
Your laying there bleeding to death Oh No I cant give critical care because Im not wanted. As long as you write your orders down and sign them If you have the time left
I guess your ok. You have the compassion of a KKK member And the common sense of a rock. A nurse is a nurse sex religon creed color does not matter 40 or 50 years ago Black doctors and nurses didnt treat the white folk Now African American doctors and nurses treat any patient that has a need. Health Care is about healing treating and comforting Improving the quality of life for others But there will always be people like you I understand that but you are supposed to be a professional. I bet you treat patient of different origins as lesser being to. I pity your patients.
I am not sure who your post was directed to but I certainly don't treat anyone different. I could care less if my nurse is blue. And I have friends of all colors, religions (well not satanists but most of the rest), and sexual orientation. But if it involves my female parts I want a female nurse. You don't know me or my background and have no right to say that a male nurse would be the same in that situation as a female nurse. Nor do you have that right to judge a pt for wanting something else in a care provider. If I am in the hospital for non-female issues I could care less if my nurse is male or female. And I certainly don't care what color my nurses skin is no matter what I am in for. But the point is that pts do have a right to choose their care providers on whatever basis they want. Now if someone is on the verge of dying I doubt they would have the ability to say much about it anyway.
I also thought your comments were rude and uncalled for. I personally don't think color or religion matter but who I am to judge other people.
And cross dressing is not the same as transgendered. From what I read of your posts you are going through the change anyway. And no once it is in the works or complete it doesn't matter what you were born with. We are not talking about someone who considers themselves females and is talking steps to be physically and legally female, we are talking about a man who likes to wear womens cloting. If someone is just cross dressing that is different. And a pt should know that the nurse is a male. Try to see it from the point of few of sexual assualt victims. It doesn't matter if an exam is not supposed to be sexual. It does bring back memories when performed by a male. It is bad enough when a female does it
If you were born a male you are a male, that's like saying Michael Jackson is white due to his complexion. He is black! Whether he wants to admit it or not. But I digress, I know that if I were a patient and I requested a female nurse and I got a male pretending to be a female, surgery or not, I would sue the pants off of the hospital.
You have 2 options in life, you are either born an XX or a XY. And that is what you are despite surgical cosmetology interferences.
I'm a sexual assault victim and I wouldn't care if I had a cross-dresser taking care of me! or a transexual! or whoever! I don't think it's a good idea to generalize that all sexual assault victims would be uncomfortable with a man in whatever capacity. Some of us are in different stages of healing.
Im curious where do you place hermaphodites and intersexed nurses Are they also in with such bad company as myself
And just so you know i dont hide myself from my patients With very few exceptions Im totally excepted They see my inner self and realize Sex is an act. Gender is not an issue. And a good nurse is something to be cherished Im sorry for my previous comments they where rude but I have been dealing with this kind issue my whole life My fellow nurses have told the DON and the ADON that Im easy to talk to, always helpful, immaculate, And very hard working so I do take it personnally when people accuse me of hiding my gender making it sound like I get a sexual thrill out of doing my job. That is not the case. I go to a urological group and all the nurses are female no males I find no embarassment there. Maybe Im strange maybe a little crazy I still hurry to work everyday because I love helping people A feeling I hope never changes I hope I havent ranted to much Ive have a day off after 6 doubles in a row. May God smile down on you each and everyday Michelle
I'm a sexual assault victim and I wouldn't care if I had a cross-dresser taking care of me! or a transexual! or whoever! I don't think it's a good idea to generalize that all sexual assault victims would be uncomfortable with a man in whatever capacity. Some of us are in different stages of healing.
I don't think she was trying to generalize. She was trying to say it is our right as a patient to choose their care provider (if its dealing with female parts, some women prefer a female provider, especially when it involves a sexual crime). I think its just fine if a sexual assault victim prefers a female provider....... and we should try to fullfill her wishes if that is the case.
I am sorry but I don't see how wanting a female nurse is closed minded. Or any other preferences. And it is no ones business why the pt does or doesn't want a certain nurse. And the patient gets to decide what shade of brown, white, red or green they don't want. Perhaps the chinese lady who doesn't want the white nurse witnessed something horrible done to a family member by a white person. The patient does not and should not have to explain that. I don't have to explain why I don't want a male nurse to give me a cath or a male dr to give me a pelvic. That is my right. And if I ask for a female nurse I want one who has the female parts underneath that uniform. I could care less whether they were born with them. As long as they have them when they are talking care of me. And if a pt asks for a female nurse but is given a male nurse dressed as a female they should have the right to sue. Okay maybe not the right to sue but misrepresenting a nurses gender is not acceptable. For some women (like me) it could cause emotional trauma. I have the right to have refuse to see a male dr/nurse. And I now assert that. I have not had a problem with getting a feamle nurse just female drs. There is a male nurse at the l&d where I delivered. But thanks to my caring CNM, who was there when I arrived and knows my history, I had a female nurse. My husband overheard her explaining to the male nurse why I needed a female. My husband said the male nurse seemed understanding. That is how it should be. And I am pretty sure my nurse was born female as I know her personally.
Ok, you have some valid points. Let me tell you what happened at a hospital in Detroit. An elderly white man cussed and was rude to a Black nurse and insisted that no Black person come into his room. his family agreed and said he had some bad history, was an old man and sjould not be forced to have Black people care for him.The manager agreed , and sis not want anyone else to be the focus of his hateful behavior. She posted a note in the report room saying please do not assign this pt to any of our Black staff. Well, THAT blew up! Jesse Jackson and the NAACP came in and there was a huge march because this was racist behavior-both the pt AND the managers' respons. Bottom line-manager lost her job, Black and White staff were at each other's throats and there was chaos.
Still think a pt has the right to demand a favorite nurse?????
Ok, you have some valid points. Let me tell you what happened at a hospital in Detroit. An elderly white man cussed and was rude to a Black nurse and insisted that no Black person come into his room. his family agreed and said he had some bad history, was an old man and sjould not be forced to have Black people care for him.The manager agreed , and sis not want anyone else to be the focus of his hateful behavior. She posted a note in the report room saying please do not assign this pt to any of our Black staff. Well, THAT blew up! Jesse Jackson and the NAACP came in and there was a huge march because this was racist behavior-both the pt AND the managers' respons. Bottom line-manager lost her job, Black and White staff were at each other's throats and there was chaos.Still think a pt has the right to demand a favorite nurse?????
I haven't ever heard that story before. It is interesting. I've seen the same basic scenario played out numerous times, but I haven't ever seen any repercussions from it. Do you know when that happened?
Personally, I don't care what the nurse looks like-or "is" as long as the person is competent when they care for me-or any patient. This student doesn't THINK with that male appendage-which will probably be lost in the near future anyway. The person utilizes their brain. If they have the qualifications to earn the RN after their name-what should it matter? The poor person has enough to worry about without being judged.
I agree totally. I have a question, though, to some of you who prefer a female when your issues are "female" issues. How would you feel about a lesbian caring for you? I just thought I'd ask since sex seems to be an issue, but what about sexual orientation? After all, the transgender man feels like a woman on the inside, but looks like a man.
Personally, the only thing I care about when a nurse is taking care of me is their intelligence & skill level.
I don't think she was trying to generalize. She was trying to say it is our right as a patient to choose their care provider (if its dealing with female parts, some women prefer a female provider, especially when it involves a sexual crime). I think its just fine if a sexual assault victim prefers a female provider....... and we should try to fullfill her wishes if that is the case.
I agree with that as well. I just don't like to be lumped into any category of people because what I feel is completely different than what she feels as far as who I am comfortable with.
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oh man, how did I and my big mouth miss this opportunity to state my opinion on this thread?