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I am a Practical Nursing Instructor. I have had a transgender accepted into my program. He/she is a cross dresser, presents as a female but has male sex organs. I had no control over this person getting in based on numbers only. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should we allow a nurse to take care of the patients who misrepresents their sex? I feel that it is wrong. Nursing is much too personal at times.
Just my thoughts:would a female not be accepted in to the nursing program because she may have excessive facial hair, or a male not accepted because he looked too feminine?? As long as this person is competent, there should be no issue. I would rather have a transgendered nurse who has great skills take care of me, than a beautiful, blond, but ditsy nurse.
my 2 cents.
I like those beautifull blonde ditsy ones
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I don't think that this students sexuality has anything to do with his nursing ability. And in most instances I could care less if my nurse was male or female. However, in any situation involving private parts I refuse to have a male nurse or doctor. If I later found out my l &d nurse I had during my labors was male dressed as a woman I would have some issues. I am a survivor of a rape (still hard for me to say) and it took me years to let a man touch me. So the only male allowed is my husband. I had to go to the ER for a threatened mc and the only dr was male and I had nightmares for nearly a year after the exam. My hubby was with me holding my hand but it made no difference. After the problems following that exam he swears he would take me to another hospital before he allowed that again. So if the nurse is going to be dealing with patients that involve private areas (couldn't think of a better way to say it) he should inform them.
The way I read the op is that the man is only a cross dresser. I think even I would have less issues if he was transgendered and appeared female. A patient does have a right to know if her nurse is male or female because for some people it makes a difference and the patient does have the right to decide for themselves. This isn't France, you know. A patient has the right to choose their provider based on gender. If the person has become legally or medically a female then that is their business but if they still have male parts they need to inform their patients especially when private issues are involved.
I think it should not matter what this person has got hanging, you know. As long as she wants to be a nurse and take care of people, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care if she was the nurse to my child, husband or any friend or family member. Transgender people are people who seem to have had an even more rough time than others. Can you imagine feeling like you were born in the wrong body? It must be so awful to live with. I give this "woman" credit for being so open about it and wanting to be a nurse. Bravo!
We do some of the surgery here for gender reassignment, and I have found the patients for the most part to be interesting and intelligent, open -minded people.Several transgendered nurses work here and they are knock-outs, in addition to being knowledgable and skilled. Yes, occasionally a pt feels uncomfortable for one reason or another. but then sometimes we have patients who don't want a Balck, White, Male, Arabic,or whatever kind of nurses, so we all have preferences and prejudices.everyone needs to be comfortable with themselves, and if you can love and be loved by someone of WHATEVER gender, then you are lucky.As far as people saying "I don't care as long as you don't shove it down my throat"....did it occur to you that ths straight lifestyle is shoved dowm evertones' throat? yeah, gays have to be "out" because it is the only way to get in their 2 cents! I saw a bumper sticker that said "Don't just assume I am straight". True! it is fun to work with diverse people!In fact, in my dept there are
one religeous fanatic, one person divorced 4 times, one lesbian,and one who was homelesss at one time ! Talk about a mixed group!
I am a Practical Nursing Instructor. I have had a transgender accepted into my program. He/she is a cross dresser, presents as a female but has male sex organs. I had no control over this person getting in based on numbers only. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should we allow a nurse to take care of the patients who misrepresents their sex? I feel that it is wrong. Nursing is much too personal at times.
If you were born a male you are a male, that's like saying Michael Jackson is white due to his complexion. He is black! Whether he wants to admit it or not. But I digress, I know that if I were a patient and I requested a female nurse and I got a male pretending to be a female, surgery or not, I would sue the pants off of the hospital.
If you were born a male you are a male, that's like saying Michael Jackson is white due to his complexion. He is black! Whether he wants to admit it or not. But I digress, I know that if I were a patient and I requested a female nurse and I got a male pretending to be a female, surgery or not, I would sue the pants off of the hospital.
So, who decides what shade of brown you have to be before being called black? You, apparently.
I'm sure if you requested a female nurse, you would not be sent a transgender one. I guess you're a nurse, but apparently you've not heard of the issued related to frivolous lawsuits that's contributing to all of our rising medical bills. Too bad, because you sound very sue-happy!
:angryfire I'm going to refrain from saying the other things I say to such close-minded people. It's a waste of typing time.
So, who decides what shade of brown you have to be before being called black? You, apparently.I'm sure if you requested a female nurse, you would not be sent a transgender one. I guess you're a nurse, but apparently you've not heard of the issued related to frivolous lawsuits that's contributing to all of our rising medical bills. Too bad, because you sound very sue-happy!
:angryfire I'm going to refrain from saying the other things I say to such close-minded people. It's a waste of typing time.
I am sorry but I don't see how wanting a female nurse is closed minded. Or any other preferences. And it is no ones business why the pt does or doesn't want a certain nurse. And the patient gets to decide what shade of brown, white, red or green they don't want. Perhaps the chinese lady who doesn't want the white nurse witnessed something horrible done to a family member by a white person. The patient does not and should not have to explain that. I don't have to explain why I don't want a male nurse to give me a cath or a male dr to give me a pelvic. That is my right. And if I ask for a female nurse I want one who has the female parts underneath that uniform. I could care less whether they were born with them. As long as they have them when they are talking care of me. And if a pt asks for a female nurse but is given a male nurse dressed as a female they should have the right to sue. Okay maybe not the right to sue but misrepresenting a nurses gender is not acceptable. For some women (like me) it could cause emotional trauma. I have the right to have refuse to see a male dr/nurse. And I now assert that. I have not had a problem with getting a feamle nurse just female drs. There is a male nurse at the l&d where I delivered. But thanks to my caring CNM, who was there when I arrived and knows my history, I had a female nurse. My husband overheard her explaining to the male nurse why I needed a female. My husband said the male nurse seemed understanding. That is how it should be. And I am pretty sure my nurse was born female as I know her personally.
So, who decides what shade of brown you have to be before being called black? You, apparently.I'm sure if you requested a female nurse, you would not be sent a transgender one. I guess you're a nurse, but apparently you've not heard of the issued related to frivolous lawsuits that's contributing to all of our rising medical bills. Too bad, because you sound very sue-happy!
:angryfire I'm going to refrain from saying the other things I say to such close-minded people. It's a waste of typing time.
I was angry at first by her post, too, but I then I realize that the poster truly feels violated because she feels strongly about being "fooled" by this nurse, just as the nurse feels equally as strong that he is female. It really isn't even a case of ignorance on the posters part; it may even be part of their value system. I don't agree with her, but I do understand and have to respect her thinking. Nursing is a tough profession to be in for a transgender person. Unfortunately there will always be a certain portion of the population who does not believe that the transgenders' knowlege of their sexuality is valid.
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Just my thoughts:
would a female not be accepted in to the nursing program because she may have excessive facial hair, or a male not accepted because he looked too feminine?? As long as this person is competent, there should be no issue. I would rather have a transgendered nurse who has great skills take care of me, than a beautiful, blond, but ditsy nurse.
my 2 cents.