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You are reading page 4 of Those who get it - get it, Those who don't - Never Will.. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

AnnieOaklyRN is a BSN, RN, EMT-P and specializes in ED, Pedi Vasc access, Paramedic serving 6 towns.

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All the reasons I am leaving the ER... Sick of getting yelled at and belittled by arrogent patients and their families!!

Thank you god, I am going to take care of the babies, hopefully my nitch in nursing!

P.S. Sorry my spelling is so horrible!

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This post is dedicated to all those non-nurse's, pre-nurse's, still-in-school-but-not-yet-clinical-time nursing students, inappropriate families, non-compliant patients, and the public at large.

To all it may concern:

Do NOT tell a nurse that his/her job is easy. It is brutal physical, mental, and emotionally EXHAUSTING work. I have heard you saying that you could do it - just passing pills and then sitting down reading a magazine.

Let me tell you this.

My job is more complex than any job you have or ever will have. I am responsible for people's lives. I am on the top of my game at all times.

Your job is sitting at a desk for 8 hours with a 1 hour lunch break. I have you beat. I have a 12 hour shift with 30 minutes for lunch (if I am lucky).

Why if I am lucky? Let me tell you why - its because I have 6 highly complex cardiac (that means heart) patients that are on the verge of having a major hear attack at any given moment while I am on duty.

No, the doctor is not there telling me what to do. Most of the time, its the NURSES who provide the care and tell the doctors what to do. Nurse's are the one's who see the patient deteroiate and inplement lifesaving interventions before the doctor arrives.

To those angry, ****** off visitors:

Get your hands off your hips. Uncross your arms from your chest. Do not raise your voice to me. Do not give me angry dirty looks from the doorway.

If I have never met you before, why do you assume I know who your infirm relative is? And since I don't know, why do you get a nasty attitude with me?

There is a right way and a wrong way to ask for something. Use manners. "May I and Please" go a long way.

Keep in mind that any threat you make towards me will result in the security department escorting you out, the police will be involved and you will not be able to set foot near me ever again.

Make sure that you clean up after your visit with whomever.

To the world as a whole:

Leave me alone when I am off duty. I do not care in the least about your eczema or your runny nose. I am not going to give you any medical advise other than common sense (tissues, handwashing, make an appointment with your MD). NO, I can't and won't "score" you free narcotics from my work. No, nurse's are not sleeping around with the doctors or having sex on duty. No, male nurses are not all gay. No, we are not angels of mercy. No, nurses are not idiots or handmaidens.

Yes, nursing it a versatile profession - its not limited to hospitals. Yes, nursing is "rewarding" (but most nurses this day and age do not go into it due to altruism alone its split 50/50 with income durablity and altruism).

In summary - there is more to nursing and nurse than you will ever know.

Those who are nurses or know anything about the profession of nursing will understand some of this.[

BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!NIcely Said!!!!/quote]

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I have a male cousin who says that nursing is the hardest job in the world.My cousin is not a nurse,actually nowhere near any health care field but yet he understand the sweat and blood behind caring for ill people.He is a smart man.

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I get your point but it seems like you're on a bit of a high nurse. I'm sure many doctors could write a similar post about their crazy experiences. I think it's really insulting the way nurses downplay the importance of doctors. A nurse doesn't just welcome a patient to the hospital and treat them. They wait for the doctor to give them orders, then it is up to them to see how they can implement them and keep track of the status of the patient (yes, I know NPs can function independently). The way some nurses talk you'd think that doctors didn't even exist. And yes, nurses spend much more time with a patient than a doctor does, but that's because that's the nurses' job. People talk as if doctors just don't feel like dropping by to see the patient and the nurse got stuck babysitting. You think the doctor's job is any less crucial than yours?

Nursing is important, but I wouldn't say that cancer researchers, engineers working to create earthquake-proof buildings, or factory workers working hard to support families have any less of an important job than you do just because they don't work bedside.

Last I heard, health care required a team. And that includes housekeeping. Who would you be nursing if drug companies didn't make a pill for everything under the sun? If biomedical engineers didn't create state of the art equipment? If housekeeping didn't keep the facilities clean? If that factory worker couldn't afford to come into the hospital.

I agree though, the fact that people think nurses just pass pills all day is pretty annoying. And you seem to be frustrated/burned out/jaded (understatement). I hope you can find something that invigorates you and renews your excitement.

You dont understand what is like to be a nurse as you are not a nurse yet.

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Ha ha. I remembered the first time I realized that nursing is such a complex job. I went whining why schools don't mention it. Why is it that they don't prepare us for it?

I then understood why employers prefer experienced nurses over new graduates.

Now, I still have a lot to learn...

Last I heard, health care required a team.

True. There is a health care team but it's the nurses who glue them all together. It's the nurses who are most exposed to the patients. Usually, doctor's just interact with their patients. Whatever they have to say to the others (i.e. therapists), it's the nurses who have to relay the information.

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Crispy Critter has 42 years experience and specializes in ER I/CCU Cath lab LTC.

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Morphed, I repeat the question asked of you earlier- are you a nurse? I would say not, judging from your post. I looked at your profile, but there was nothing there. When nurses come here to vent, they want to let off steam and frustration, feel some comradery and validation and have someone say "Yeah, I know just what you mean. Sometimes I feel like that too".

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WoosahRN has 10 years experience as a MSN, RN and specializes in PICU.

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Hahahah! Not that I want to give morphed any more attention but you actually helped PROVE the point of the OP. If you have to argue it, question it, or need an explanation....YOU DON'T GET IT!!!! So, I hate to break it to you, but this was not a discussion about doctors and their role, and you ultimately proved to fall into the 'other' category....

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Really, why would it matter?

There are people on here, both young and old, in age and years worked, that agree with it.

Age has absolutely NOT a DARN thing to do with it!!!!! Look at my age and years worked! Anyone who is between the ages of 20 and old age and has worked even 6 months can identify with the stupidity that is out there. I have been known to point family members toward the patient advocate office if they have a problem and to spell my name correctly. I also write it up if I get a chance (when is that?).....LOL.

There are primarily 2 groups that I see that cause us the most grief 1) The have nots. Many of these folks have lived off the system for years and it is part of their "entitlement" to make our lives hell. This does NOT include those who have been the victims of job loss and other catastrophies 2) The privileged. They have some of the same characteristics as the have nots. A false sense of entitlement due to their status (or perceived status) in the community. They just dress better.

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i get your point but it seems like you're on a bit of a high nurse. i'm sure many doctors could write a similar post about their crazy experiences. i think it's really insulting the way nurses downplay the importance of doctors. a nurse doesn't just welcome a patient to the hospital and treat them. they wait for the doctor to give them orders, then it is up to them to see how they can implement them and keep track of the status of the patient (yes, i know nps can function independently). the way some nurses talk you'd think that doctors didn't even exist. and yes, nurses spend much more time with a patient than a doctor does, but that's because that's the nurses' job. people talk as if doctors just don't feel like dropping by to see the patient and the nurse got stuck babysitting. you think the doctor's job is any less crucial than yours?

sometimes we do not have the luxury to wait on a physcian. that is why we have protocols, to cover our ass as well as take care of the patient until the doctor can be notified and come in to see the patient.

 

nursing is important, but i wouldn't say that cancer researchers, engineers working to create earthquake-proof buildings, or factory workers working hard to support families have any less of an important job than you do just because they don't work bedside.

 

last i heard, health care required a team. and that includes housekeeping. who would you be nursing if drug companies didn't make a pill for everything under the sun? if biomedical engineers didn't create state of the art equipment? if housekeeping didn't keep the facilities clean? if that factory worker couldn't afford to come into the hospital.

 

a true team experience is rare in some hospitals. yes, we would still be nursing. nursing did start out a long time ago when limited facilities and limited medication was the norm, this is still evident today in third world countries and disaster zones. nursing functioned before the advent of all our "state of the art equipment".

 

i agree though, the fact that people think nurses just pass pills all day is pretty annoying. and you seem to be frustrated/burned out/jaded (understatement). i hope you can find something that invigorates you and renews your excitement.

 

sometimes we just need to vent. we are not burned out or jaded, we are calling it the way it is on some days. i personally do not go through my day like pollyanna. i enjoy much of my work, but we all have days where it is therapeutic to vent to someone who understands.

 

wonder if this person is in nursing school or medical school?

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nursel56 has 25+ years experience and specializes in peds//ambulatory care/HH-private duty.

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i totally agree with your post -- could have written it myself if i'd thought of it. i'm glad you did!

the stars and planets must have been aligned in just such a way that we had two five-star vents yesterday! yours and abbakings!

crispy critter- if a reply contains a suggestion that the author of the vent find another line of work, whether the tone is indignant or concerned, it's 90% predictive of one or all of the categories the op included in his salutation.

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XB9S has 22 years experience and specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.

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This is a vent thread, but that does not excuse members making personal, off topic posts and assumptions about other members

if you don't agree then argue your point, disagree respectfully and debate the topic, do not discuss, debate and make personal comments about other members

I've deleted off topic posts and will continue to do so

Post respectfully please

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medical student?

i'm in nursing!!!! gees, can't a person share a thought without people assuming they somehow have ulterior motives? just because i'm not walking around saying that nurses are the sole saviors of the world i am immediately a medical student? do i have as much experience as you? no, but that doesn't mean i can't have an opinion based on what i experience, see, hear, and read. will i change my opinion later in my career? absolutely. it's quite possible after racking up the experiences of 10 years in nursing i might have a shift in thought, but that's a good thing. if i stayed exactly the same that would mean i had no growth. i look forward to learning from you guys because you have a lot of experience and wisdom to share, but seriously, a lot of you guys immediately attack the younger people. instead of assuming i am not a nurse, why don't you point out somethings that you learned over time. did you guys go into nursing absolutely knowing everything you know now? weren't you green about some things? didn't certain insights only develop after a few years?

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