I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
"The perverts and losers at the failed and once disbanded Lincoln Project, and others, are using A.I.(Artificial Intelligence) in their Fake television commercials in order to make me look as bad and pathetic as Crooked Joe Biden,” Trump posted Dec. 4 on Truth Social.
In the Lincoln Project's Dec. 4 video, titled "Feeble,” a narrator addresses Trump directly with a taunt. "Hey, Donald,” the female voice says. "We notice something. More and more people are saying it. You're weak. You seem unsteady. You need help getting around.” The video flashes through scenes showing Trump tripping over his words, gesturing, misspeaking and climbing steps to a plane with something white stuck to his shoe.
Are these clips the work of AI? We reviewed them and found the Trump clips are legitimate — and not generated using AI. We reached out to the Trump campaign but did not hear back.
As usual, when Trump hears what he doesn't like he says it's fake.
Why did American Disaster Liz Cheney, who suffers from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), and was defeated for Congress by the largest margin for a sitting Congressman or Congresswoman in the history of our Country, ILLEGALLY DELETE & DESTROY most of the evidence, and related items, from the January 6th Committee of Political Thugs and Misfits. THIS ACT OF EXTREME SABOTAGE MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR MY LAWYERS TO PROPERLY PREPARE FOR, AND PRESENT, A PROPER DEFENSE OF THEIR CLIENT, ME. All of the information on Crazy Nancy Pelosi turning down 10,000 soldiers that I offered to to guard the Capitol Building, and beyond, is gone. The ridiculous Deranged Jack Smith case on Immunity, which the most respected legal minds in the Country say I am fully entitled to, is now completely compromised and should be thrown out and terminated, JUST LIKE THE RADICAL LEFT LUNATICS DID TO THE EVIDENCE!
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This guy thinks that he's producing evidence that the 2020 election was rigged. IMV he's providing evidence that he is delusional and has no business anywhere near the presidency.
If you peruse the citations at the bottom of the pages you'll see that Trump's sourcing includes articles from right wing BS media like Epoch Times or the Gateway Pundit. Isn't it funny that none of Trump's "evidence" of fraud would stand up in court but his fan club eats it up.
This is a civil case that seeks to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado by arguing that he should be disqualified from holding public office because his involvement in January 6 violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Here's the text of that section:
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"Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
One issue that's been flagged with Section 3 is that it doesn't include the mechanism for preventing a prohibited person from taking office. It is silent as to who and how a determination that someone has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" must be made. Although challenges made to remove members of Congress who were involved in the efforts to block certification of the 2020 vote failed to succeed, one state challenge, in New Mexico, led to a state commissioner being barred from holding public office for life. A district judge found the man, who had been the leader of "Cowboys for Trump" during the attack on the Capitol, violated Section 3 by participating in an insurrection.
CREW argues that that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is self-executing, which means that there is no need for any additional sort of laws to be passed that specify how it should be enforced. They argue it can be put into action using applicable state laws. They base their argument on the language of the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent that they say holds that congressional action (passing a law that sets forth how the provision should be enforced) cannot be required to activate Section 3 and that states have historically enforced it consistent with their own laws.
In denying Trump's motions, Judge Wallace clarified that whether Trump can be excluded from the ballot for violating Section 3 is an issue that can be decided in a state case like this one that challenges the appearance of Trump's name on the ballot under Colorado law (a "ballot challenge" lawsuit). She called Trump's assertion that the Colorado GOP could choose which candidates appear on the ballot "absurd" and said that whether Colorado's Secretary of State has the power to block Trump from the ballot based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment "is a pivotal issue and one best reserved for trial.”
Among the issues we can expect to see surface at trial are:
whether Section 3, which was passed following the Civil War, applies to situations that occurred after that war. Section 3 does not contain any language limiting it in this way.
whether the president is an "officer of the United States" so that the law includes him in its ambit. The Constitution repeatedly refers to the president as someone who holds an "office" and it's a semantic trick to argue otherwise. Trump himself seems to have advanced the view that a president is an officer of the United States in the E. Jean Carroll case, where he argued he was entitled to representation by DOJ because of his role in federal government.
The more difficult issue involves whether Trump must be criminally convicted, or at least charged with insurrection, to be disqualified under Section 3. The courts may decide that in the absence of a judicial determination, questions about whether an individual is fit to serve should be decided by citizens in an election.
A similar case is pending in Minnesota. It will be heard by Minnesota's Supreme Court on Thursday. In Minnesota, primary candidates' names must be submitted by January 2, 2024, for the March 5, 2024, primary, and absentee voting begins January 19, 2024. The Minnesota Supreme Court issued an order that indicated that before it would permit discovery to proceed in that case, "we will first address threshold and potentially dispositive legal issues of justiciability and the legal construction of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,” which doesn't sound like good news for those seeking to bar Trump from the ballot there. But at least the courts seem to be treating these cases like the urgent matters they are, given how quickly these early voting dates will be upon us. Both the Colorado and Minnesota cases were only filed in September of 2023 but ballots have to be approved far enough in advance for their printing to be complete in time for primary voting to begin. Both Colorado and Minnesota courts are moving quickly...
In Illinois, the challenge filed in conjunction with the liberal advocacy group Free Speech For People, asks the Illinois Board of Elections to hold a hearing on the matter and bar Trump from appearing on both the primary and general election ballots because of his role in the January 6, 2021, US Capitol attack.
"Donald J. Trump, through his words and actions, after swearing an oath as an officer of the United States to support the Constitution, engaged in insurrection or rebellion, or gave aid and comfort to its enemies, as defined by Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment,” the voters wrote in their petition to the board of elections.
The petition adds that Trump "has never expressed regret that his supporters violently attacked the U.S. Capitol" and threatened lawmakers inside, and that "Trump has not apologized to anyone, either on his own behalf or on behalf of his supporters, for the January 6 attack.”
Minimal info compared to other states ballot access requirements guidelines, big focus on Voter registration and conduction of elections --needs to be reviewed in coming years.
... Drawing from actual receipts and records and using the most conservative possible accounting methodologies, White House for Sale: How Princes, Prime Ministers, and Premiers Paid Off President Trump documents how, as President, Donald Trump accepted more than $7.8 million in payments from foreign states and their leaders, including some of the world's most unsavory regimes. By elevating his personal financial interests and the policy priorities of corrupt foreign powers over the American public interest, former President Trump violated both the clear commands of the Constitution and the careful precedent set and observed by every previous Commander-in-Chief.
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution forbids the President to accept money payments or gifts "of any kind whatever" from foreign governments and monarchs unless he obtains "the Consent of the Congress" to do so. Yet Donald Trump, while holding the office of president, used his business entities to pocket millions of dollars from foreign states and royalty and never once went to Congress to seek its consent. This report sets forth the records showing foreign government money—and all the spoils from royals we can find—pouring into hotels and buildings that the President continued to own during his presidency, all in direct violation of the Constitutional prohibition.
This is a civil case that seeks to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado by arguing that he should be disqualified from holding public office because his involvement in January 6 violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Minimal info compared to other states ballot access requirements guidelines, big focus on Voter registration and conduction of elections --needs to be reviewed in coming years.
This is going to be fascinating. Will the SCOTUS have courage and interpret the constitution according to its plain language and intentions, or will they spin and twist to appease the mad king?
This is going to be fascinating. Will the SCOTUS have courage and interpret the constitution according to its plain language and intentions, or will they spin and twist to appease the mad king?
Plain language and intention? That's your opinion.
It wasn't the opinion of the original judge or three of the seven Colorado Supeme Court justices. All appointed by Democrat governors, btw.
Don't be shocked if SCOTUS is 9-0 in favor of Trump.
Why did American Disaster Liz Cheney, who suffers from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), and was defeated for Congress by the largest margin for a sitting Congressman or Congresswoman in the history of our Country, ILLEGALLY DELETE & DESTROY most of the evidence, and related items, from the January 6th Committee of Political Thugs and Misfits. THIS ACT OF EXTREME SABOTAGE MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR MY LAWYERS TO PROPERLY PREPARE FOR, AND PRESENT, A PROPER DEFENSE OF THEIR CLIENT, ME. All of the information on Crazy Nancy Pelosi turning down 10,000 soldiers that I offered to to guard the Capitol Building, and beyond, is gone. The ridiculous Deranged Jack Smith case on Immunity, which the most respected legal minds in the Country say I am fully entitled to, is now completely compromised and should be thrown out and terminated, JUST LIKE THE RADICAL LEFT LUNATICS DID TO THE EVIDENCE!
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This is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
She has responded.
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Seems like someone is starting 2024 hangry. @realDonaldTrump - you and your lawyers have had the J6 cmttee materials (linked below) plus the grand jury info & much more for months. Lying about the evidence in all caps won't change the facts. A public trial will show it all.”
Her accusation of being hangry I think harks back to a Truth Social post he made when he said "That statement is not true. I was not depressed, I WAS ANGRY, and it was not that I was not eating, it was that I was eating too much,” about something she wrote in her book.
As in the past Trump's claims are based on conspiracy theories and falsehoods, which he knows will be widely believed by his follows. He's planted the seed that no matter what happens it's based on destroyed evidence designed to rig the election against him.
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As usual, when Trump hears what he doesn't like he says it's fake.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2023/12/22/trump-lincoln-project-ad-ai-artificial-intelligence-clips-politifact/?itm_source=porificely-api