I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Former President Donald Trump said immigrants coming to the U.S. are "poisoning the blood of our country,” a remark on Saturday that quickly drew a rebuke from his chief Democratic rival as President Joe Biden's campaign likened the words to those of Adolf Hitler.
I doubt Trump writes his speeches. This stuff sounds like Bannon, Stephen Miller, and or Roger Stone. Trump is very willing to repeat this cr@p because it appeals to his cult, the perpetual victims who buy into replacement theory.
...Many likely Iowa Republican caucusgoers have no issue with several of Trump's recent controversial statements, a new Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom Iowa Poll has found — and more often than not, they say the same statements make them more likely to support the former president. ...
Trump's pledge to authorize "sweeping raids, giant camps and mass deportations" prompts half of respondents to say they are more likely to support him. Trump has laid out aggressive plans to curb illegal immigration under his second term, including sending thousands of U.S. troops to the southern border and reviving a travel ban for several Muslim-majority countries in the Middle East.
Trump's declaration that he would have to root out "the radical left thugs that live like vermin" in the U.S. prompts 43% of likely Republican caucusgoers to say they are more likely to support him — words that historians said echoed language used by fascist leaders like Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.
A similar share of likely caucusgoers (43%) say it doesn't matter that Trump said he would have "no choice" but to lock up his political opponents. ...
Unsettleing.. see article re Trumps phrases garnering support
This doesn't surprise me. The border and illegal immigration is one of the top issues for Republican voters, as evidenced by Republicans connecting any aid to Israel and Ukraine to their border agenda.
Fox News and conservative media brings it up often, even if it's not connect to a story. Such as last year when he was criticized for taking a Christmas vacation while the border situation was bad. Despite what he does Senators and others are constantly posting on their social media and on Fox "Biden is ignoring the border crises that he created".
Those on the extreme dehumanize those trying to enter the country by buying into Trump's language. This worked well for him before in 2015 when he made false accusations about Mexicans and crime.
I'm totally for fighting illegal immigration but not because they are "poisoning the blood". Not even sure what that means.
But like it or not the border situation is a problem that is getting worse for him as more voters are making it an issue.
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The explanation captures the president's dilemma and the delicate balance he has tried to strike when it comes to the fraught issue of immigration. Biden is facing a monumental crisis as unlawful border crossings spike and migrants arrive in crowded cities with no jobs or places to sleep, stirring resentment among Democratic governors and mayors who are part of his governing coalition. At the same time, tough enforcement measures risk alienating Hispanic voters who are part of Biden's political base.
The Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state's 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn't an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment's "insurrectionist ban.” The ruling was 4-3 and will be placed on hold pending appeal until January 4.
Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace concluded – based on testimony of US Capitol Police officers, lawmakers, clips from Trump's January 6, 2021, speech and expert testimony about right-wing extremism – that Trump engaged in the January 6 insurrection.
Wallace determined that Trump "actively primed the anger of his extremist supporters" and "acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and direct it at the Capitol.”
She also found that Trump "acted with the specific intent to disrupt the Electoral College certification of President Biden's electoral victory through unlawful means.”
The Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state's 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn't an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment's "insurrectionist ban.” The ruling was 4-3 and will be placed on hold pending appeal until January 4.
Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace concluded – based on testimony of US Capitol Police officers, lawmakers, clips from Trump's January 6, 2021, speech and expert testimony about right-wing extremism – that Trump engaged in the January 6 insurrection.
Wallace determined that Trump "actively primed the anger of his extremist supporters" and "acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and direct it at the Capitol.”
She also found that Trump "acted with the specific intent to disrupt the Electoral College certification of President Biden's electoral victory through unlawful means.”
The Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state's 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn't an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment's "insurrectionist ban.” The ruling was 4-3 and will be placed on hold pending appeal until January 4.
Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace concluded – based on testimony of US Capitol Police officers, lawmakers, clips from Trump's January 6, 2021, speech and expert testimony about right-wing extremism – that Trump engaged in the January 6 insurrection.
Wallace determined that Trump "actively primed the anger of his extremist supporters" and "acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and direct it at the Capitol.”
She also found that Trump "acted with the specific intent to disrupt the Electoral College certification of President Biden's electoral victory through unlawful means.”
If SCOTUS rules the other way, the end result will probably a bump of a few points for Trump. However. probably not enough in this ever increasingly blue state.
The Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state's 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn't an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment's "insurrectionist ban.” The ruling was 4-3 and will be placed on hold pending appeal until January 4.
Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace concluded – based on testimony of US Capitol Police officers, lawmakers, clips from Trump's January 6, 2021, speech and expert testimony about right-wing extremism – that Trump engaged in the January 6 insurrection.
Wallace determined that Trump "actively primed the anger of his extremist supporters" and "acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and direct it at the Capitol.”
She also found that Trump "acted with the specific intent to disrupt the Electoral College certification of President Biden's electoral victory through unlawful means.”
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Beerman said:
Taking the decision out of the hands of voters.
As some like to say, our democracy is in peril.
If SCOTUS rules the other way, the end result will probably a bump of a few points for Trump. However. probably not enough in this ever increasingly blue state.
Do you feel that any or all qualifiers or disqualifiers for the highest political office should be abandoned, or just the ones that might disqualify an authoritarian who tried to retain lost power through extra- constitutional means? This particular Trumpist defense and concern seems to imply that if the American people wanted to elect a 28 year old immigrant to the presidency that would be fine with conservatives.
Let's not kid ourselves, Trump supporters don't care at all about indictments or convictions or lying unless they are associated with the Biden name. Even then it only has to be a claim or suspicion, no actual evidence is required. Of course they will love Trump more if he suffered real consequences for his words or actions. That's the way it works in his cult.
It will be interesting to see if the SCOTUS decides that 010621 wasn't an insurrection or that Trump didn't tell the foundational lie, set the date for the rally, invite people, and then tell them to go to the Capitol to stop the steal. Or that he didn't give them hope that he'll pardon them while calling them political prisoners. Maybe the SCOTUS will decide that none of that amounts to giving aid or comfort to the insurrectionists.
Do you think that ethically challenged Justice Thomas would recuse himself from that SCOTUS decision given that his wife was part of the team trying to keep Trump in office after he lost?
If SCOTUS rules the other way, the end result will probably a bump of a few points for Trump. However. probably not enough in this ever increasingly blue state.
Interesting line of thinking. Putting the presidency back into the hades of voters ... hmm.
Soros funded organization, with no particular tie to Colorado, files this lawsuit in Colorado not because they are worried about Trump winning here. Biden won by 15%. But because a liberal friendly district court and a liberal State Supreme Court might rule just how they did and set a precedent for other states.
So, even though he hasn't been convicted of any insurrection related crimes, this judge and Supreme Court decided they could determine he's is guilty and therefore ineligible to be on the ballot.
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Beerman said:
Heads should explode.
Soros funded organization, with no particular tie to Colorado, files this lawsuit in Colorado not because they are worried about Trump winning here. Biden won by 15%. But because a liberal friendly district court and a liberal State Supreme Court might rule just how they did and set a precedent for other states.
So, even though he hasn't been convicted of any insurrection related crimes, this judge and Supreme Court decided they could determine he's is guilty and therefore ineligible to be on the ballot.
The disqualification doesn't require a conviction of anything. The Colorado Court asked a couple of questions and then followed the law. Did Trump meet any of the elements laid out in the amendment and its clauses which described the disqualification? Is the legal ballot for federal elections in the state of Colorado their jurisdiction? What do you think the answer is to those questions?
Yes. They are establishing precedent. Part of that is arguing the case before the Supreme Court of the US. This is the American process.
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I doubt Trump writes his speeches. This stuff sounds like Bannon, Stephen Miller, and or Roger Stone. Trump is very willing to repeat this cr@p because it appeals to his cult, the perpetual victims who buy into replacement theory.