I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
On its face, the statements are promises to enforce the law. But coming from Mr. Trump, a politician who has repeatedly claimed to see corruption and fraud where there is no evidence of either and who as president pressured law enforcement officials to act on his complaints, the words raise the prospect that government officials could be investigated and prosecuted for conducting a fair election.
In his refusal to accept his defeat in 2020, Mr. Trump already has accused election officials of working against him, calling them out by name on social media and spreading falsehoods about their work.
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Democracy experts said the talk of prosecution had troubling parallels. Such threats are far more likely in new nations, post-communist states or places that are "struggling in the shadows between democracy and authoritarianism,” said Larry Diamond, who studies democracies around the world as a senior fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.
"You won't find instances in the contemporary world of a mature and stable and even faintly liberal democracy where a major presidential candidate is making these kinds of threats,” he said. "It's just bizarre and unprecedented.”
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In the United States, candidates from both parties have long publicly treated election officials as impartial, largely saving disputes about how an election was run for lawsuits. Mr. Trump's steady complaints about his loss in 2020 have shredded that norm, opening up election officials to a flood of false allegations and threats of violence.
It's important to talk about Trump's toxic rhetoric and stochastic terrorism.
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Crusades said:
So now you have diagnosed him with PTSD? On what parameters and symptoms? Nevermind You'll just repeat you feel he has it so it must be.
Maybe you assume that it's not traumatic to have people actively trying to shoot you. From what we know about people who survive attempted assassination, PTSD is common. Do you know what symptoms we might look for?
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I see your point. I see your example as the mirror part of smoke and mirrors.