I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Ineffective. You're going to walk right into the. "but what about BLM violence!"
I remember that controversy. I also remember the Chicago police riot in 1968, with all the false advertising that came after.
Maybe not so ineffective after all, for some. I submit that we don't have a full picture of "BLM violence". Too bad the organizers shot themselves in the foot (if the reports of embezzlement are true).
All of these and it it completely unlikely that rhetoric like this that goes unchecked and unrestrained even from the top leaders in the democratic party hasn't radicalized these 2 wanna be assassins?. There seems to be a pattern of religious chant like phrases that are repetative.
"Threat to democracy ", "existential threat", "destroy democracy ".
Some of the most egregious.....
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"He is destructive to our Democracy and needs to be eliminated" - Rep Dan Goldman
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"Needs to be put in the bullseye " -Biden
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"I'm serious, Trump is a threat to our country" - Biden
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Does one of us have to come out alive?". -Harris when replying on a hypothetical question and refering to Trump.
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There're still going to have to go out and put a bullet into Trump - Rick Willson The Lincoln Report
These are all verified. But yeah, none of this has anything to do with the 2 attempted assinations in 9 weeks and a first in history.
However the bomb threat hoax in Springfield Ohio by foriegn sources is because "eating cats and dogs".
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Kamala Harris brought up in the debate that 800,000 Polish decendents live in PA. I'm 1/2 Polish maternal side with family based in Doylestown Bucks County area. So now Trump is visiting the National Shrine of Our Lady of Czestochowa in Doylestown on Sunday. The national shrine honors Our Lady of Czestochowa, an icon depicting the Virgin Mary that holds particular significance for Catholics in Poland. He's not religious, so why go there?? Oh..Polish President Andrzej Duda will also be at the shrine on Sunday. Think he will
My prior visiting nurse territory was in Philly's Port Richmond area where Polish is still spoken in many stores which I frequent today, much better area for him to campaign in. Poles won't like it if he tries to do political event at this shrine.
Perhaps we should go off how Trump is an existential threat and needs to be eliminated? As per several democrats. If done correctly the next time someone wants to try and assisnated him, they'll use kryptonite infused bullets?
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All of these and it it completely unlikely that rhetoric like this that goes unchecked and unrestrained even from the top leaders in the democratic party hasn't radicalized these 2 wanna be assassins?. There seems to be a pattern of religious chant like phrases that are repetative.
"Threat to democracy ", "existential threat", "destroy democracy ".
Some of the most egregious.....
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These are all verified. But yeah, none of this has anything to do with the 2 attempted assinations in 9 weeks and a first in history.
However the bomb threat hoax in Springfield Ohio by foriegn sources is because "eating cats and dogs".
Trump is a threat to our republic even though you like to pretend that he didn't attempt to overthrow our elected government. Just out of curiosity what do you think happens after someone overturns an election and vote totals don't matter anymore?
Trump employs violent language and violent imagery in his fear mongering. He's reaping what he sows.
Trump is a threat to our republic even though you like to pretend that he didn't attempt to overthrow our elected government. Just out of curiosity what do you think happens after someone overturns an election and vote totals don't matter anymore?
Trump employs violent language and violent imagery in his fear mongering. He's reaping what he sows.
You know what didn't happen on Jan. 6? A second assinati9n attempt in less than 9 weeks.
You know what Trump's " violent rhetoric" didn't do? Cause a second assassination attempt on the prior POTUS and a presidential candidate. In less than 9 months and a first in history.
I mean no one even said to peacfully and patriotically make Trump know he's a existential threat to democracy and needs to be eliminated. Except they did but with "peacfully and patriotivally" omitted.
What do you think happens when people openly call for him to be eliminated? 2 people tried just that.
Do you believe it is Trump's fault for the 2 attempted assinations?
I thought you do not condone any violence? Not even the assination of Hitler? I gues it's another dual rule for blue.
P.s: even Trump the second coming of Hitler would support an assination of such a vile human. You wouldn't. (Apparently)
First in history? What about Gerald Ford and the two assassination attempts within 17 days...
Can you explain bomb threat "hoax"?
I see you found another Republican president that had two assination attempts on his life in a short period of time. When was the last attempted assination X 2 of a FORMER president and/or presidential CANDIDATE Within 9 weeks?
All of these and it it completely unlikely that rhetoric like this that goes unchecked and unrestrained even from the top leaders in the democratic party hasn't radicalized these 2 wanna be assassins?. There seems to be a pattern of religious chant like phrases that are repetative.
"Threat to democracy ", "existential threat", "destroy democracy ".
After the first assignation attempt Biden asked his party to tone it down.
But yes, some of the examples you chose are similar to what Democrats have accused of "inciting violence". Did incite assassination attempts? We'll probably never know, it might have, but also Trump probably incited them himself as well.
But Trump is blaming the Biden-Harris rhetoric. I guess that's fair and two wrongs don't make a right, but honestly it's pot meet the kettle in this situation. It's almost like Trump is playing the victim of his own game.
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In a post on his social media platform later Monday, Trump accused Democrats of making "false statements" about him that he said "has taken politics in our Country to a whole new level of Hatred, Abuse, and Distrust."
After the first assignation attempt Biden asked his party to tone it down. But Trump is blaming the Biden-Harris rhetoric. I guess that's fair and two wrongs don't make a right, but honestly it's pot meet the kettle in this situation. It's almost like Trump is playing the victim of his own game.
I think almost being assinated two times in 9 months gives him some validity as a victim. Right? Or at least acknowledge at least 2 people were out to get him. And it sure doesn't make the people who constantly criticize him for playing the victim more credible doesn't it? Perhaps this is his own stroke of luck (other than not dying 2 times) in order to put doubts in people's mind that perhaps he is being politically persecuted? He definitely was almost killed twice. And yet he didn't play on that did he? Barely spoke of it.
Yes. Biden called put political violence then repeated lies about Charlottesville and Project 2025. While in his angry man voice at the DNC.
Then everbody stopped talking about the attempted 1st assination after it was indeed found out to be a bullet that grazed his ear other than a peice of glass. There was very little mentioned about the innocent man who lost his life from the democrats. Trump did not use his death as a political campaign point.
Trump didn't speak much about the first attempt on his life. I was suprised. Then dems continued with their existential threat to democracy, dictator propaganda. However the second time.... Trump and Republicans and normal people have every right to call out the 7 plus years of violent rhetoric from democrats and left media propagandists for what led up to the second attempt to murder him in 9 months. And they have every right to use the exact same precedent set by the democrats to call them out. Hold them to their own standard. Blue pass denied.
Harris did really well at the debate, but Trump was almost assisnated for a second time. The only condolences from the democrats is to feel sorry for themselfs and only pretend they care that Trump was almost killed so close to the election...... . Again
After the first assignation attempt Biden asked his party to tone it down.
But yes, some of the examples you chose are similar to what Democrats have accused of "inciting violence". Did incite assassination attempts? We'll probably never know, it might have, but also Trump probably incited them himself as well.
But Trump is blaming the Biden-Harris rhetoric. I guess that's fair and two wrongs don't make a right, but honestly it's pot meet the kettle in this situation. It's almost like Trump is playing the victim of his own game.
I gotta disagree. I don't see a pot/kettle dynamic at all. More like smoke and mirrors. I've already given my assessment of what's motivating this particular iteration of the victim card. It fits a pattern I've noticed for years, since the days of Rush Limbaugh. "Accusation = confession" is as good a label as anything I've heard. Usually, it's a riff on the "don't look over there" trope.
I don't for a minute believe that the far right has a corner on violent rhetoric. Lady knows I can get pretty ... salty? ... myself. A real discussion of who's responsible for the consequences of aggressive speech would be fun.
But this particular conversation ain't it. This conversation is about a false equivalency, and is part of a stock advertising campaign. It's intended to try to make us ignore the fact that trump has been a verbal bully and a speaker of violence since at least the seventies. We're supposed to pretend that Jan. 6,, for instance, was no more serious than an incompetent lone shooter who missed. Or that the brutal beating of an elder in his home is the same as a wingnut settler of ambiguous political persuasion who never even took his shot. My grandson could do a better job.
HOW exactly does a President cut car insurance rates of a private company? Is he going to have the Feds take over? Florida and other states would like help with their home owners insurance more I think.
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I remember that controversy. I also remember the Chicago police riot in 1968, with all the false advertising that came after.
Maybe not so ineffective after all, for some. I submit that we don't have a full picture of "BLM violence". Too bad the organizers shot themselves in the foot (if the reports of embezzlement are true).