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I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can.  My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.  

He's not going away.

Haberman's book is out based on interviews.  I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting.  Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with.  LOL

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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2022/09/25/trump-dishes-to-his-psychiatrist-00058732

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/08/trump-project-2025

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Olivia Troye, a former White House adviser to Mike Pence who sat in on policy sessions during Trump's first presidency, said Trump's attempt to distance himself from Project 2025 was driven by a recognition that its deeply controversial policy prescriptions could sink his election bid.

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"This is preposterous if you look at the collaborators and the authors of this plan,” she told CNN when asked whether Trump's denial was credible. "A lot of these people...served in Trump's cabinet during his administration. There are people that I worked with. I sat in those policy meetings with them.”

Troye identified various figures – including John McEntee, who was Trump's director of White House personnel, Stephen Miller, a senior adviser in his first administration, Ben Carson, the housing and urban development secretary in his cabinet, and Ken Cuccinelli, a former deputy secretary of homeland security – as among the project's leading architects.

Carson has been "out there on the campaign trail" with Trump, she said.

"I think what this is telling us is that Donald Trump knows that what is written in this plan is so extreme that it is damaging to his possibility of getting elected, and that's what he's concerned about.”

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The denials appear to be undermined by close studies of the personnel involved in the document's formulation.

Of the 38 people involved in the writing and editing of Project 2025, 31 of them were nominated to positions in Trump's administration or transition team – meaning 81% of the document's creators held formal roles in Trump's presidency.

The denials defy logic and common sense.  

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Just for grunts and giggles, Google "project 2025 hack".

Kinda puts the whole war on TikTok in a whole new light.

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heron said:

Just for grunts and giggles, Google "project 2025 hack".

Kinda puts the whole war on TikTok in a whole new light.

I'm not sure that three Heritage Foundation is going to enjoy everything that might accompany that "win". LOL

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Check out Project 2025 to understand how Trump plans to staff the executive branch should he lie his way back into the Oval.

Read the Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo decision. Specifically look at the actual holding of that decision. Between that and some other recent decisions, whatever agenda P2025 has is going to be mostly a pipe dream. 

 

However much the Heritage Foundation likes the decision, it will also dislike the decision... ironically for the same reason. 

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akulahawkRN said:

Read the Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo decision. Specifically look at the actual holding of that decision. Between that and some other recent decisions, whatever agenda P2025 has is going to be mostly a pipe dream. 

 

However much the Heritage Foundation likes the decision, it will also dislike the decision... ironically for the same reason. 

We should all dislike that opinion.  

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Someone tried to assassinate Trump today in PA. I was watching his rally when it happened.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Someone tried to assassinate Trump today in PA. I was watching his rally when it happened.  

Something hit his R side ear area, saw blood--heard about 13 shots on replay of his Butler PA rally.  Secret service swarmed him, took down to ground then hustled off stage. While he was helped up, Trump raised fist in air.    Not good that it happened in my state, far western PA near Ohio border.  Area treated as crime scene now....UGH!.

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NRSKarenRN said:

Something hit his R side ear area, saw blood--heard about 13 shots on replay of his Butler PA rally.  Secret service swarmed him, took down to ground then hustled off stage. While he was helped up, Trump raised fist in air.    Not good that it happened in my state, far western PA near Ohio border.

Not good that it happened at all.  It's never good to make a pathological liar and conman appear sympathetic and violence is not an answer, it's a substitute for reason.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Not good that it happened at all.  It's never good to make a pathological liar and conman appear sympathetic and violence is not an answer, it's a substitute for reason.  

Are you serous? 

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CNN + NBC reporting suspected shooter "neutralized" and one attendee is dead, another critical --confirmed by local DA. Report is shooting occurred from outside event by person climbing up on low building on outside perimeter of farm arena.

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I'm reminded every day what a violent nation we live in.

Trump appears to be very lucky and lucky to have the protection of the Secret Service.  I hope he makes a full recovery.

The shot of him holding his fist up covered with blood is stunning.

His daughter says  "Thank you for your love and prayers for my father and for the other victims of today's senseless violence in Butler, Pennsylvania. I am grateful to the Secret Service and all the other law enforcement officers for their quick and decisive actions today. I continue to pray for our country. "

Trump Jr. said something to affect his father will continue to save America and take whatever the radical left throws at him.

Washington responds as expected.  

Soon there will be publicity given to people glad that he got shot and sorry he didn't die.  

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Crusades said:

Are you serous? 

Very serious. 

Violence is not an answer and it's bad to make a dangerous liar look sympathetic. 

It sounds like the shooter was young, that might explain some of the foolishness. 

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