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The Policeman vs. The Nurse

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PacoUSA has 8 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in PCU / Telemetry.

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marsy has 2 years experience and specializes in Psych, I/DD.

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i thought this was absolutely ridiculous and was disgusted; i just had to post it. a nurse gets fired because she vented to a cop giving her a ticket. he went to her boss and complained...my first question is how did he know where she worked? second, even though it was slightly unprofessional of her, she was off duty and he was not her patient! what are nurses now going to get arrested for getting intoxicated in a bar when they're not working or something equally outrageous as that?!? being professional is expected in the workplace, but acting like a normal human being, all flaws included, might now get us fired? does anyone agree with this or am i totally wrong here?

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/the-policeman-vs-the-nurse/?ref=health

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CrunchRN has 25 years experience as a ADN, RN and specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

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That was a very stupid thing to say as it could be construed as a threat.

HOWEVER - it troubles me greatly that off duty life can be used as a reason to fire you as a nurse. This is very intrusive and I think they need to hold everyone to that standard if they are going to do it with nurses.

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I'm in CA. In CA, nursing is exempt from alot of stuff. But, if you are an RCP (respiratory therapist), what she did could and probably would get an action on her RCP license. Anything you do off duty can impact your RCP license and you could get on probation, get a citation (not a pat on the back) with a fine, or a public reprimand.

Count your blessings your board doesn't slam you at any chance.

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Tweety has 28 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

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Well, considering people are being fired for what they say on social network sites like Facebook, this type of thing doesn't surprise me.

I would think it would be wrong for someone to get fired for being intoxicated in a bar, but when you're using your job to threaten/demean another person, violating HIPPA, then that's a bit different. Although, I don't think the person should have been fired.

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I am OK with her being fired. Her behavior indicates a lack of judgment that makes me uncomfortable. Yes I believe she had the right to say say that but that doesn't mean it was right. Makes me wonder how she would respond to a patient on one of her bad days.

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If it is against the facility's policy then yes. We all were just sent emails basically telling us to watch what we say about the facility/employer because we represent them whether in uniform or not.

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Employers are looking near and far to justify their actions in getting rid of employees. There are some things done off duty that should lead to disciplinary action by an employer, but getting testy with a policeman at a traffic stop doesn't fall in that category.

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The thing that bothers ME the most, honestly, is that this is he-said/she-said BS. Provide me with proof that this happened, and I'd take my licks. This, honestly, could have just been a case of "He has a personal vendetta against nurses".

In other news, when did police officers turn on their bretheren? Around these parts, EMS, police, firefighters, RN's and other healthcare workers all band together. We are all coworkers, honestly.

Finally, what she said WAS sh*tty. If *I* heard that from a police officer I'd definitely think he/she was trying to tell me to watch my back and not do stupid stuff b/c I'd def. be getting a ticket.

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Penelope_Pitstop has 13 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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Well, considering people are being fired for what they say on social network sites like Facebook, this type of thing doesn't surprise me.

I would think it would be wrong for someone to get fired for being intoxicated in a bar, but when you're using your job to threaten/demean another person, violating HIPPA, then that's a bit different. Although, I don't think the person should have been fired.

I agree 100%. I think since nurses are considered easily replaceable anyhow, employers aren't as willing to fight for their employees as in the past.

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One should ask themselves the simple question: What if your family physician acted like this? What about the lawyer who would represent you? What about a policeman (woman.)? Nursing is a career which one needs to be attentive his or her behavior. This goes for how you conduct yourself at the work place, as well as outside it.

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maybe it's just me, but i didn't read her statement "i hope you're never my pt", as a threat.

rather, it sounded like a disgruntled person that never wanted to see this cop ever again.

seriously...how can one prove what her intent was?

i think termination was a bit much.

whether it is fortunate or unfortunate, the reality is that we nurses are held to a higher standard.

i do believe a warning would have been appropriate...

and another repeat offense - termination.

leslie

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