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a CNA was being extremely inappropriate, I pulled he rinto an empty room so we could discuss things. she started to raise her voice and i raised mine. no cursing was involved and neither of us were yelling by any means. Door was closed. Another CNA reported it to the manager....the manager then listened to both our version and gave us each advice (we were not in the same room during this). manager basically told me that I should have pulled her into a conference room instead of an empty patient room. I questioned which conference room, since our unit does not have any such room or even a break room. she said we should have used the room waaaaayyyyy down the unit. I said that would have been hard to do given I just got hit with 3 admission, but I took full responsibility and walked away with it as a learning experience. 2 hours later she called me at home, we are both being suspended for a day for "inappropriate behaviour", apparently the patient next to that room heard us. I am beyond the panic level since I am thisclose to accepting a transfer, which is probably not going to happen now. I have to get out of there because I am now "ex" with another RN and he is treating me like hell. I am thinking about moving back to "the city" where all of my friends are, but how is a suspension going to look, I ask. man, I am screwed, and I honestly tried doing the "right" thing. this particular CNA is a bully, tries to intimidate. I stood up to her! And the worse part of the night, my ex and her were talking about me behind my back. i dont know how to deal with all this.

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nhelkhound specializes in hospice, home care, LTC.

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Keep your head high, ignore all the "gossip" and remember that you didn't take any ****. A suspension does not spell the end to your career. Keep doing your best and keep your eyes open for a more comfortable position, away from "her" and the "ex".:heartbeat

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singingtothewheat specializes in Acute Care.

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I agree completely with nhelkhound. Hold your head up. DO NOT get involved in the gossip mill, it is poison.

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I think the suspension was fair,but its just a "learning lesson" like you said and hopefully things will improve.I would also have a talk with the X because its not appropriate for him to be gossiping about you with the CNA.

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DaddysLilRN2b has 7 years experience.

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based on your post it sounds as if you need to re-evaluate yourself and your job functions. you have a job to do, so do it. if a cna is a "bully" it's not your job to "stand-up" to her, it's the job of your supervisor. and getting into a screaming match with a co-worker is unacceptable. as long as the cna is not jeopardizing the health or safety of a patient, you should not intercede. as far as the cna gossiping behind your back with your "ex", my mom has this saying "you should never eat in the bathroom" (that's putting it nicely). i heard stories some great stories about workplace romance but about 95% of the time you are setting yourself up for disaster, as i'm sure you now know. grow-up and use this suspension as a learning experience. take this lesson with you when you find a new job because i'm positive you will not be at your current place of employment much longer.

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Doc Lori, R.N. specializes in Dialysis,M/S,Home Care,LTC, Admin,Rehab.

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Gossip is so toxic!! Also, it is unfortunate that you were not praised for attempting to correct the situation yourself, instead you were disciplined for where you spoke to her? Despite the fact that it was private? Who cares if it's the bathroom, the med room or the broom closet, you had enough respect for yourself, the cna and the patients and visitors to take her somewhere to speak privately! Way to support your staff. Sheesh. Hang in there and keep your chin up..you handled yourself beautifully. :)

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Doc Lori, R.N. specializes in Dialysis,M/S,Home Care,LTC, Admin,Rehab.

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Based on your post it sounds as if you need to re-evaluate yourself and your job functions. You have a job to do, so do it. If a CNA is a "bully" it's not your job to "stand-up" to her, it's the job of your supervisor. And getting into a screaming match with a co-worker is unacceptable. As long as the CNA is not jeopardizing the health or safety of a patient, you should not intercede. As far as the CNA gossiping behind your back with your "ex", my mom has this saying "You should never eat in the bathroom" (that's putting it nicely). I heard stories some great stories about workplace romance but about 95% of the time you are setting yourself up for disaster, as I'm sure you now know. Grow-up and use this suspension as a learning experience. Take this lesson with you when you find a new job because I'm positive you will not be at your current place of employment much longer.

Part of the responsibility of the nurse is to direct patient care, and that entails directing staff. In addition, it is a mature and accountable thing to do- to discuss and provide an open forum with the people you are working with, ultimately to ensure safe and excellent patient care for your assignment. The chain of command. If you are unable to resolve an issue, you then take it to your supervisor. I gotta tell ya, you will not be your supervisor's "favorite little RN" if you whine to them every time you have an interpersonal issue with a staff member. Also and with due respect, DaddysLilRN2b, your last sentence is quite bitter, and hardly supportive. I do hope from a sincere heart space that when you are in full swing in your career, you take a lesson in sensitivity, and employ some candor in your professional relationships.

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Also, it is unfortunate that you were not praised for attempting to correct the situation yourself, instead you were disciplined for where you spoke to her? Despite the fact that it was private? Who cares if it's the bathroom, the med room or the broom closet, you had enough respect for yourself, the cna and the patients and visitors to take her somewhere to speak privately!

it really does make a difference where such 'discussions' take place.

one time i overheard 2 cna's loudly talking with ea other (in front of a comatose pt).

i was in the next room over, tending to a pt, so of course, the pt heard them 'talking' as well.

i quickly left the room to intervene...

and gave them both an earful.

so yeah, if a nurse needs to confront someone else, make sure that no one can hear you...esp other pts.

leslie

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a CNA was being extremely inappropriate, I pulled he rinto an empty room so we could discuss things. she started to raise her voice and i raised mine. no cursing was involved and neither of us were yelling by any means. Door was closed. Another CNA reported it to the manager....the manager then listened to both our version and gave us each advice (we were not in the same room during this). manager basically told me that I should have pulled her into a conference room instead of an empty patient room. I questioned which conference room, since our unit does not have any such room or even a break room. she said we should have used the room waaaaayyyyy down the unit. I said that would have been hard to do given I just got hit with 3 admission, but I took full responsibility and walked away with it as a learning experience. 2 hours later she called me at home, we are both being suspended for a day for "inappropriate behaviour", apparently the patient next to that room heard us. I am beyond the panic level since I am thisclose to accepting a transfer, which is probably not going to happen now. I have to get out of there because I am now "ex" with another RN and he is treating me like hell. I am thinking about moving back to "the city" where all of my friends are, but how is a suspension going to look, I ask. man, I am screwed, and I honestly tried doing the "right" thing. this particular CNA is a bully, tries to intimidate. I stood up to her! And the worse part o

f the night, my ex and her were talking about me behind my back. i dont know how to deal with all this.

You still havent told us what did the CNA due that was "inappropiate"

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Doc Lori, R.N. specializes in Dialysis,M/S,Home Care,LTC, Admin,Rehab.

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it really does make a difference where such 'discussions' take place.

one time i overheard 2 cna's loudly talking with ea other (in front of a comatose pt).

i was in the next room over, tending to a pt, so of course, the pt heard them 'talking' as well.

i quickly left the room to intervene...

and gave them both an earful.

so yeah, if a nurse needs to confront someone else, make sure that no one can hear you...esp other pts.

leslie

Quite right. This indeed is a very unfortunate circumstance!

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Get the Hell out of dodge. Take that transfer or look for a new job.

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Keep dancing, like nobody's watching....But remember--they always are.

a CNA was being extremely inappropriate, I pulled he rinto an empty room so we could discuss things. she started to raise her voice and i raised mine. no cursing was involved and neither of us were yelling by any means. Door was closed. Another CNA reported it to the manager....the manager then listened to both our version and gave us each advice (we were not in the same room during this). manager basically told me that I should have pulled her into a conference room instead of an empty patient room. I questioned which conference room, since our unit does not have any such room or even a break room. she said we should have used the room waaaaayyyyy down the unit. I said that would have been hard to do given I just got hit with 3 admission, but I took full responsibility and walked away with it as a learning experience. 2 hours later she called me at home, we are both being suspended for a day for "inappropriate behaviour", apparently the patient next to that room heard us. I am beyond the panic level since I am thisclose to accepting a transfer, which is probably not going to happen now. I have to get out of there because I am now "ex" with another RN and he is treating me like hell. I am thinking about moving back to "the city" where all of my friends are, but how is a suspension going to look, I ask. man, I am screwed, and I honestly tried doing the "right" thing. this particular CNA is a bully, tries to intimidate. I stood up to her! And the worse part of the night, my ex and her were talking about me behind my back. i dont know how to deal with all this.

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