Anyone start their career late in Life? - page 69

I would be happy to hear from anyone here that started their career late in life, perhaps Nursing is a second career. For a number of reasons, I am seriously considering changing careers, and for a... Read More

  1. by   new1nursebabyea
    Just posting this job for you.

    Behavior Specialist (BSC), Therapeutic Staff Support (TSS), Mobile Therapist (MT), Psychologist Job in Philadelphia 19102, Pennsylvania US

    With your master's in counseling, is it more lucrative for you to re-direct? When I was let go, management talked about the similarities btw waitressing and nursing. It is true. Now, I'm a waitress. lol. sigh..
  2. by   joanna73
    Hi New1, I read some of your posts, and I am hoping something positive will happen for you. I just became RN two weeks ago, at 37. While that is still relatively young, I also wonder what the future holds. Thankfully, I do have a job, but it is very disheartening to note that thousands are feeling hopeless when they took a chance on something that is supposed to be a "sure thing".

    When I decided to return to school, I was not expecting this. Ironically, I waited for nursing because there was a recession then, when I finished high school 20 years ago. And as you mentioned, upgrading is not an option for many who are already broke. I think it will be another year or more of this unfortunately. In the meantime, I guess just keep applying. Someone out there must have some compassion, aside from a space to fill. Some of my friends were looking for just under a year, and recently landed RN jobs. So there is always hope. Somewhere, I do believe someone always will need a nurse...

    Good luck in your search.
  3. by   new1nursebabyea
    Thank you for your empathy! Would you mind letting me know what part of the country you are in? I wonder if this makes a difference in terms of getting that first job.

    I recently had an interview scheduled at a hospital which the recruiter then canceled two days before d/t my "2009 degree" (12/14 to be exact). This happened after multiple discussions and that she had copies of both official and unofficial transcripts. I missed my 6 month window by a long stretch.

    After relating my story to an hr recruiter and adjunct faculty of nursing that the dean of my nursing school hooked me up with, and hearing her response, I have decided to move on. Upon the recommendation of the first recruiter to attend a nurse refresher course, I briefly thought about it. The idea was nixed after the other nursing hr person told me that that experience "would not count" as real experience. A third recruiter that I spoke with informed me that because I had attended a GN residency, I would be disqualified from most programs. I am not willing to relocate for a nursing job as this is the reason why I exited my last profession.

    So, I feel that now is the time for me to use this and my other collection of degrees toward other avenues. I saw a job in health advocacy/education for kids thru college age and I am excited to see that there are such positions. I will apply -- cross your fingers! I will find a way to use my nursing background towards some kind of career!
  4. by   joanna73
    Hi there. I am in Canada, and relocating to AB for my job. I got the job through a nurse on this site actually, and we've become friends. I am very fortunate to have met her.
    The economy sucks here just as bad, but people are still finding jobs slowly. Have you considered agency or clinical work as a nurse? Something to keep you in the loop? You have not been out of school that long really. Maybe continue with your other pursuits, while you submit nursing resumes. The new year is approaching...all it takes is one resume in the right hands to get you hired. All I'm suggesting is to not completely give up on the idea. I had 2 more offers after I accepted this one, which I am relocating for. You just never know.
  5. by   Psyc_Guy
    Quote from new1nursebabyea
    Just posting this job for you.

    Behavior Specialist (BSC), Therapeutic Staff Support (TSS), Mobile Therapist (MT), Psychologist Job in Philadelphia 19102, Pennsylvania US

    With your master's in counseling, is it more lucrative for you to re-direct? When I was let go, management talked about the similarities btw waitressing and nursing. It is true. Now, I'm a waitress. lol. sigh..

    It can be if you are smart about it and experienced. What I mean by that is, if you are in business for yourself (own your own practice and not work in another person's practice) and you have counselors/NPs/psychologists that work out of your practice then yes, it can be. This would mean that I would have to get about 5+ years or more of experience (as I have heard that it takes about that long to get really good at counseling), then open my own business, over time hire in-home/mobile therapists, buy a building or office suite, recruit mental health workers, and charge everyone who works out of my office 25%. I would be looking at 7-10 years before I started making decent money.

    I looked at the link you posted and I currently have a job doing in-home or mobile therapy. When you look at the ad it sounds pretty reasonable, right? However, they do not tell you the whole story. It is not $30-35 an hour 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week, it is 30-35 an hour for every hour you bill. That means between driving time, cancellations, no-shows, late clients, etc, you may only bill about 50-60 percent of your day. I may work a 9-10 hour day and bill about 6 clients. Then there is the paperwork associated with the counseling that you cannot bill for. There are also one hour weekly supervision sessions with my supervisor because I am a provisionally licensed counselor, one hour weekly or bi-weekly team meetings, monthly 1 hour family support team meetings for some of my clients, phone calls with clients, family members, my office, my supervisor, case workers, submitting billing paperwork, etc. All of this is time that you work that you don't get paid for. The money comes from the time you see clients. You also have to take into account that because I am a Master's level counselor, I cannot bill adults through Medicaid, I can only bill children and considering children are in school until about 3:30 and usually go to bed between 8-9, I have a short window of time that I can see them. If you do do in-home therapy about 80-90% of your clients will be children. I have nothing against my profession, rather I enjoy it to some degree. I really don't have a "boss" as I am a contracted worker, I dress how I want, I make my own schedule, I don't have to worry about someone telling me I screwed up and to get a form right or I am fired. And with that laxed position comes an okay, but not great paycheck. I actually do better than the ad you posted. Medicaid pays about $60 an hour to do in-home therapy and the place I work for takes out about 25% to cover the referral base, taking care of my billing, and providing me with supervision for the 2 years until I am fully licensed. Full time counselors will bill about 20 hours a week. You can do the math. Some counselors work more. I have heard of some counselors billing 30 hours a week. That is crazy when you take into account all of the other work that goes along with it.

    Again, not a bad living but I figure with an MSN in PMHNP, I can make more than double what I am making now and do a lot of the same things. And I am willing to give up some of the autonomy and freedom if it means doubling my salary.
  6. by   new1nursebabyea
    Wow! It is amazing to see what is involved in a different industry.

    I imagine that if you redirected to nursing now, by the time you will have graduated the economy
    will have turned and your opportunities will be much better.

    What I did notice in my short "career" as a graduate nurse in a hospital associated with
    a university, was that many nurse pursued their master's while nursing and enjoying tuition

    Good luck!
  7. by   RP-LPN
    All I can say if you are looking to change then don't stop at LPN go on and get the RN BSN.....I've been in LTC for more then 15yrs as a Nursing Scheduler / staffing coorn...and went back at the age of 39 and grad at 40yrs and boy would I love to have the chance to get that RN degree right now...I'm in a job that they do as they please and I'm all about being a advocate for my Residents so I think we butt heads a go for it your never to old.....
  8. by   sicma39
    I'm a 41 year old wife and mother with a passion for the nursing profession!! I have 10 years experience as a back office medical assistant in the field of internal medicine. I am finishing up my 3rd semester of Kaplan's ADN program and it was the best decision I ever made. I CAN'T WAIT TO BECOME AN RN!!!!!! WHOOT, WHOOT!! Anyone out there thats considering nursing school, do it!! I never could have imagined in my wildest dreams how rewarding and life changing that medical assisting program I graduated from in 1999 would alter my lifes path. Nursing is a part of my soul and I hope others out there can experience the same. It's hard but soooo worth it.
  9. by   RHIA, RN
    Thank you to all of the posters in this thread. I am applying to a RN program, application class is next week. I am 31 and feel like I'm too old to do this sometimes. On the other hand, I know I'll regret it if I don't.
  10. by   Gizmo3
    I graduated from a medical assisting program in 2000, and shortly after started taking pre-req courses at the local community college. I worked and took classes in the evening as I could. Once I finished those, I was accepted into a BSN program as a sophomore, and just recently graduated in May of 2010. The whole process took about 10 years!
    So, after saying that, I also became a grandma in January of 2010,and also turned 50 in December of 2010 . So, it's never to late!!
    FYI: Colonel Sanders started KFC at 65 yrs old, so I guess I've still got alot ahead of me!
  11. by   Nursesherryb2010
    I'm with ya sista.. Whoop-whoop !! I am 47 years old and just graduated from Nursing school!! I have over 20 years experience in administration (secretary), but my world changed dramatically from a lay-off from the large corporation that I worked for as a secretary, and just like you 2 years ago I would have never imagined in my "wildest" dreams how rewarding and life changing my future would be. Nursing is a part of my soul and I am proud to be one ! YAY !
    Last edit by Nursesherryb2010 on Jan 14, '11
  12. by   vphiggs
    I started nursing school with my oldest daughter when is was 46. I am now starting online rn classes at 56. I love nursing and have worked in several different areas of nursing. It is the most rewarding and sometimes the hardest work that I have ever done. You are never to old to learn and never too old to care!
  13. by   MBARN
    I graduated at 49 after having a business career, looking to go to even more school and finish at 57. Don't plan to retire unless they kick me out! lol