Something that tick me off....

[Sensoria17]

I have a friend that was able to get on part-time at a nsg home. They are trying to find her a third day to work so she can keep her benefits. Everyone at her facility works full-time and holds down at least one more part-time job. No wonder LVNs in CA can't find jobs. There are people out there that are hogging all the jobs. This friend said the same thing was true at her previous facility, all the nurses held more than one job. I understand that they have a right to hold down as many jobs as they can handle but I can't help but think this may be contributing to a shortage of jobs here in CA. Meanwhile, I'd be happy to find just one PT job that would cover my living expenses. Okay, I'm done venting.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

Here's the kicker, when they come to work from their first job and going to their second, they usually trickle in an hour or so LATE. Due to the fact that they were coming from their first job. Usually the ones that have more than one job are the Filipino nurses. Some of them hold down 3 jobs. They have two full time jobs, and the third job comes in on their days off from their other jobs. How they manage to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week is beyond me. Now lets be fair, there are others that do have two part time jobs in order to equal that to a full time job and those are from any ethnic origin. I don't think that it's the fact that they're job hogging, it's the fact that 1. they need the money or 2. They love money.

[Divest]

You can't blame people just trying to make ends meet. You don't know their financial situation and they probably need the money.

Everyone is just trying to survive and those people who are holding down more than one job are no exception.

[Sensoria17]

Here's the kicker, when they come to work from their first job and going to their second, they usually trickle in an hour or so LATE. Due to the fact that they were coming from their first job. Usually the ones that have more than one job are the Filipino nurses. Some of them hold down 3 jobs. They have two full time jobs, and the third job comes in on their days off from their other jobs. How they manage to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week is beyond me. Now lets be fair, there are others that do have two part time jobs in order to equal that to a full time job and those are from any ethnic origin. I don't think that it's the fact that they're job hogging, it's the fact that 1. they need the money or 2. They love money.

My friend was also complaining about these people coming in late or calling off at the last minute. I don't blame people for having two part-time jobs. That makes sense because it will equal one FT job. My anger is directed at those that hold down two FULL-TIME jobs. What I don't understand is that LVNs make good money here in the Bay Area (I know others will disagree) and when I was working a desk job, I managed a living making HALF of what the average LVN makes in the Bay Area and I could do so again if it got to that point.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

LVN's make a decent living in the Bay Area, they're by no means rich or well off but we can get by if we have a full time job. If you have a spouse or significant other in the picture you can live comfortably in the Bay Area with a LVN salary.

I agree, I also hate it when people call in sick at the last minute. There should be a time frame, that if your shift starts at 7am, then you have up until 4am in order to call in sick. If you're shift starts at 3pm, then you have til noon, and noc shift you have til 8pm to call in sick. Most places do have that rule, and if you don't call within that time frame, then you get a mark against you. Every time you call in sick whether it's doctors note or not, you still get a mark against you. You can only have 3 marks per quarter. If you go beyond than the 3 marks then you get a write up. You can only have 12 marks per year for sick calls. That really keeps the employees in line, and it does help with sick calls. If you're late, then you also get a mark against you, and that's separate from the 3 marks per quarter for sick calls.

[caliotter3]

I made the same observations when I started out in the healthcare field a couple of decades ago. Three nearby nursing schools and all you ever saw in the local facilities were the same people with multiple jobs. I, too, had to leave in order to get a job. The only thing ever available there was an occasional "on-call" "job" to cover those times when one of the people who had two full time jobs called off. The situation would not exist if employers did not see some benefit in these personnel acquisition and retention practices. No doubt, had something to do with the local prevailing wages also. Just move to an area where the employee base is not entrenched and you have a chance at a job. That is all the advice I can offer.

[kat7ap]

While I sympathize with your pain, I doubt that other LVNs who hold multiple jobs is the main reason CA LVNs are having difficulty finding jobs. I think TheCommuter nailed it in a previous thread: too many schools churning out new LVNS and a poor economy leaving less insured people not seeking healthcare and employers cutting back or even closing facililities. However, I could not imagine working two full time jobs. At times I will work about about 10-15 hours OT each week with my current employer and that is enough! You could always move to Texas.... Our job market still seems strong!

[Sensoria17]

I realize people holding down two jobs isn't the only reason for the job shortage here but it certainly isn't helping the situation.

[Bobylon]

There should be a time frame, that if your shift starts at 7am, then you have up until 4am in order to call in sick. If you're shift starts at 3pm, then you have til noon, and noc shift you have til 8pm to call in sick. Most places do have that rule, and if you don't call within that time frame, then you get a mark against you. Every time you call in sick whether it's doctors note or not, you still get a mark against you. You can only have 3 marks per quarter. If you go beyond than the 3 marks then you get a write up. You can only have 12 marks per year for sick calls. That really keeps the employees in line, and it does help with sick calls. If you're late, then you also get a mark against you, and that's separate from the 3 marks per quarter for sick calls.

Girl, please.... hope you get your flu shot

Common courtesy WOULD dictate that one call in as soon as feasible, but ..... I can imagine waking up at 21:30 and not feeling well enough to go to work at 23:00....sorry this doesn't fit your iron handed time frame..... Life goes on, no matter what.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

Thank God I've never had a reaction to the flu shot. But no worries, I'm getting my flu shot.

[NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN]

Girl, please.... hope you get your flu shot

Common courtesy WOULD dictate that one call in as soon as feasible, but ..... I can imagine waking up at 21:30 and not feeling well enough to go to work at 23:00....sorry this doesn't fit your iron handed time frame..... Life goes on, no matter what.

I'm sorry, but it's not my rule, it's my place of employments rule. It does help because then they have more time to replace the sick call. I understand that sometimes that someone does end up feeling sick late in the shift. I've had that happen before and I ended up going to work but ended up being sent home because I was extremely sick. I didn't want to get a mark against me. Mostly I believe they have this in place for people who seem to have a bad habit of calling in sick one hour before shift and they do it constantly. I've found this to be true in SNF, rarely does it happen in our hospital.

[Bobylon]

Thank God I've never had a reaction to the flu shot. But no worries, I'm getting my flu shot.

Same here, as soon as offered