Published Aug 21, 2008
jbc76
51 Posts
hi everyone! this is my first time to post some message here.. i just wanna share some information that most of you might want to know.
i've been reading through the forums here for quite some time now for the reason that i'm also a california nclex-rn passer without ssn and i have 2 more years to go before they destroy my files hehe
just so i would know what to do when that time comes, i am now exploring my options as to which state board i will apply for licensure and have my nclex passing result sent to. one of the options was new mexico, but unfortunately this was the reply i got from them:
my inquiry:
"i have passed the nclex-rn exam under the california state
board, how can i apply for a license in your state when i don't have an
active license to endorse (due to lack of ssn)? thanks."
new mexico bon's reply:
"the board cannot license you by endorsement as you are not licensed in another state.
you have the option of applying by examination and taking the exam again
for new mexico if you so choose. you can read the application
instructions and requirements that are needed for the new mexico board."
my reply:
"is it possible that i apply by examination and have my nclex-rn result from california be sent to your board? i don't understand why i have to take the exam again when i have passed it already. i also hold a visascreen certificate which was issued by cgfns."
"no it is not possible. you have the three options that is to get your social security number so that california can license you or you opt to take the exam again for new mexico. you can also check into other states to see what is required by those different boards. "
just fyi guys it's just a bit weird that they're requiring me to take the nclex again if i chose to be licensed in nm hmmmm
does anyone of you know other state bon's that will allow the nclex pass result be sent to them for licensure other than vermont?
thanks!
lawrence01
2,860 Posts
Every Board will have their policy but if you already know that VT is able to accept this unlike NM, then why even bother trying to endorse or apply for initial licensure to NM ??
Also, not sure if you already know but CA BRN also extends that 3 year deadline to another year upon formal request at the proper time (when it is near expiration) and you still have 2 years to go until your letter from CA expires.
And who knows by the time your letter from CA BRN expires in 2 years time, each Board would have changed their policies regarding that issue. So, doing an extensive research now would not do you much good, in my humble opinion. What you know now is enough. Just do another research when the time comes if the information you know now still holds true. There are a lot of things that can change in 2 years time.
In my experience, the common mistake everyone does seems to be expecting that a certain rule, policy or whatever will still hold true for years and not bother to research on what still holds true at their moment of time and just rely on what they previously knew w/c could have been true at that time but may not be true anymore at the present or in the near future.
Hey thanks Lawrence for that speedy response.
You actually have a point there. I read some post here that the Cali BRN don't reply or give an update as quickly as some state BONs. How would I know if my request for extension has been granted? How much time before the expiration should I allow before I request for an extension? My valid application with them will end on April 10, 2010 (to be exact hehe).
And another thing: my employer is in Florida and just filed the I-140, my PD is May 1, 2008. I really had a hard time looking for a California based employer to petition me so I just opted for this.
a. How will I become licensed in FL w/o SSN?
b. What if the retrogression gets lifted before my file with Cali even expires? Should I just wait for my immigration papers and SSN, get my California license, then endorse to Florida BON?
c. Is it possible to have my NCLEX passing result be sent to the FL BON?
Sorry for the bombardment of questions hehe Just want to hear what you guys have to say. Thank you so much. :)
The Fl board has the same policy as CA does w/ regards to US SSN. You will only get licensed if you provide a US SSN and you'll only get one when you arrive in the US and apply for one.
However, you have to apply to Fl BON first for licensure before they can recognize you.
You need to contact them as well just like how you contacted the NM BON and ask the same questions you did and apply either for initial licensure or endorsement depending on their policy.
The usual is that the NCLEX passing letter CA gave you is enough. What the personnel told you when you contacted the NM BON is not the usual, so contact the FL BON and ask the same questions you did when you contacted NM BON to find out for sure but there are many that have done that already before and did not have problems like that from what you just learned from NM.
If retrogression gets lifted and you are able to arrive in the US before the expiration happens then just apply for a US SSN ASAP and send that to the boards ASAP as well to get your license.
With regards to applying to FL BON now or just wait when you arrive is a hard decision you have to make on your own. First of all, there is no guarantee on when will you arrive even if retrogression gets lifted. There are many here who are 2-3 years on their cases already and still waiting, so don't count or make any predictions on when you can possibly finish your case and arrive in the US as there is no guarantee on when will that happen.
All I know is that you need to contact the Fl BON first and clarify on w/c you can do then take it from their if you want to do it now (even if you still have 2 years on your CA letter w/ a possibilty of a 1 yr extenstion) or do it later on and always keeping in mind that maybe 2-3 years from now, what the FL BON told you today may not anymore hold true by that time. Also, contact your agency and ask them, you may not even have a choice on what to do.
*Try searching for fruity's thread on how she was able to endorse to VT and at the same requested CA BRN for an extension - w/c was granted.
Hope that helps.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
Please contact the BON of Florida before you do a thing now. Last that we are hearing is that they will not endorse someone from another state that does not have two years of experience in the US as an RN first if you trained out of the country.
There have been several posts about this lately being enforced.
Florida also requires the CES before they will look at your application, but again, check directly with them and check out the other threads on this same topic about what is happening in Florida right now. There were several that had gotten licensed in other states then moved to Florida and they are unable to get licensed there now.
-----------------------
Each state can change their requirements at any time and they do, and they can begin to enforce requirements that they actually had in place before. Example is that CA will not permit one to test if they do not have a local license any longer. They just required a letter as to why one did not test, but they are no longer accepting that.
Thanks Lawrence and Suzanne. I guess it's best to leave it as it is now and for me to cross the bridge when I get there.
Oh btw, when I made the inquiry with the NM BON, it was Ms. Sabrina Vidaurri who replied so she wasn't just a personnel there. She's got something to do with the BON.
Anyway, thanks again for the replies :wink2:
I also inquired with the FL BON about my concern.. This is what they had to say:
My inquiry:
"I would like to know if it is possible to apply for licensure by examination in your state and have my NCLEX-RN passing result from California BRN be sent to your board? I also hold a VisaScreen Certificate which was issued by CGFNS.
If that's not possible, what other options are there for me? My employer is from there, and my immigration papers are still being processed - reason why I still lack SSN."
FL BON's reply:
"You may apply by endorsement but a license will not be issued in FL until you have an SSN. http://www.doh.state.fl.us/Mqa/nursing/nur_lic_reqEnd.html "
I reckon that's fair enough :wink2:
Thanks guys!
Look at their website, it states now that the nurse has to have two years of experience before they will permit endorsement if they trained out of the US.
It is in black and white on their site.
Best of luck to you.
Hi Suzanne. I actually read that info but the way I understood it that applies to those who haven't taken their SBTPE or NCLEX yet. I also saw an Employment Verificaton form in their Licensure by Endorsement application and it states clearly there:
EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION FORM
***IMPORTANT- Please do not complete this form if you have taken the SBTPE or NCLEX examination. ***
So we'll see.. I guess I'm gonna have to clear that up with them.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Hi Suzanne. I actually read that info but the way I understood it that applies to those who haven't taken their SBTPE or NCLEX yet. I also saw an Employment Verificaton form in their Licensure by Endorsement application and it states clearly there:EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION FORM***IMPORTANT- Please do not complete this form if you have taken the SBTPE or NCLEX examination. ***So we'll see.. I guess I'm gonna have to clear that up with them.Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Better clear that up directly with the FL Boards and please kindly share it here again.
There have been issues just recently that nurses who graduated from Cuba and fully licensed in NM, if my memory serves me right, was being asked to provide proof of 2 years US experience. We were not sure if it's something to do that they are already fully licensed in another State and can legally work there or something else.
Your situation may be different, since you never technically got licensed in any State.
Best way is to clarify it directly with the Board.
Endorsement is what you have been asking about, and you have written the NCLEX exam. So that makes you included with that, even though you do not have a license issued.
Their website states 'having written the NCLEX exam". You would be using results forwarded from CA, so that includes you under this.
Please contact them and ask them specifically since you have already taken the NCLEX exam and passed it.
The physicians from Cuba that had issues already had documents to work in the US before they started the licensing process.
--------------------
We are seeing more and more states making things more difficult, and looks like we are going to see things get tighter, not easier.
dave787
583 Posts
hi everyone! this is my first time to post some message here.. i just wanna share some information that most of you might want to know.i've been reading through the forums here for quite some time now for the reason that i'm also a california nclex-rn passer without ssn and i have 2 more years to go before they destroy my files hehe just so i would know what to do when that time comes, i am now exploring my options as to which state board i will apply for licensure and have my nclex passing result sent to. one of the options was new mexico, but unfortunately this was the reply i got from them:my inquiry: "i have passed the nclex-rn exam under the california stateboard, how can i apply for a license in your state when i don't have anactive license to endorse (due to lack of ssn)? thanks."new mexico bon's reply: "the board cannot license you by endorsement as you are not licensed in another state. you have the option of applying by examination and taking the exam againfor new mexico if you so choose. you can read the applicationinstructions and requirements that are needed for the new mexico board."my reply: "is it possible that i apply by examination and have my nclex-rn result from california be sent to your board? i don't understand why i have to take the exam again when i have passed it already. i also hold a visascreen certificate which was issued by cgfns."new mexico bon's reply: "no it is not possible. you have the three options that is to get your social security number so that california can license you or you opt to take the exam again for new mexico. you can also check into other states to see what is required by those different boards. "just fyi guys it's just a bit weird that they're requiring me to take the nclex again if i chose to be licensed in nm hmmmm does anyone of you know other state bon's that will allow the nclex pass result be sent to them for licensure other than vermont?thanks!
you btter have your result forward to vermont they will issue license, we did it and we have our license already.