Did CPR for the first time today. - page 2

Student passed out on PE doing fitness gram, was having abnormal breathing and not responding. Called 911, operator gave instructions to do CPR and just did it, 3 mins, not stopping. Other people... Read More

  1. by   LikeTheDeadSea
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    The standard for layperson CPR is compressions only, no matter what. Am I the only one who finds it amazing there was no transport/ follow up?
    I'm shocked EMS didn't require a transport post-compressions, especially because they took them over and it was a minor.

    Interesting.

    Great job acting quickly! OldDude always says it best.
  2. by   OyWithThePoodles
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    The standard for layperson CPR is compressions only, no matter what. Am I the only one who finds it amazing there was no transport/ follow up?
    I think that's crazy!! Amethya, when EMS got there did they resume compressions? Or did they just do rescue breaths? Or anything? As a parent I would've wanted her transported in case anything happened in the car, but of course, you can always refuse AMA.
  3. by   grammy1
    Quote from MrNurse(x2)
    The standard for layperson CPR is compressions only, no matter what. Am I the only one who finds it amazing there was no transport/ follow up?
    I teach CPR/AED/BFA, and we teach compressions and rescue breathing. If they are uncomfortable doing rescue breaths d/t no mouth shield, then they can do compressions only, but it is not as effective. This is for laypeople and medical personnel.
  4. by   OyWithThePoodles
    Quote from grammy1
    I teach CPR/AED/BFA, and we teach compressions and rescue breathing. If they are uncomfortable doing rescue breaths d/t no mouth shield, then they can do compressions only, but it is not as effective. This is for laypeople and medical personnel.
    Not to be argumentative, but everything I've read and heard says that hands only is just as if not more effective. Round these parts layperson CPR is hands only.
  5. by   grammy1
    Quote from OyWithThePoodles
    Not to be argumentative, but everything I've read and heard says that hands only is just as if not more effective. Round these parts layperson CPR is hands only.
    The majority of the times a child or infant needs CPR, it's due to respiratory failure. They have a lower oxygen reserve to begin with, and most likely if CPR is needed their oxygen is already depleted.

    As for adults, that's what we teach, no one can be certified and we were taught that the outcome is slightly better with rescue breaths.

    CPR with rescue breaths as good as, possibly better than, compression-only CPR - News on Heart.org
  6. by   Neats
    So very proud of my medical profession! Way to go!
  7. by   Amethya
    I'm not sure why they didn't continue but they saw she had a pulse and checked her for vitals, they saw they were normal. They called her mother and because this has happened before and is not in danger because it wasn't a seizure or anything, they asked her if she wanted transport or not and Mom said no because she would be fine and was picking her up . She told us that she's like this then 30 mins later she's fine. They already made an appointment for her because they still not sure what causes these problems, but the neurologist said if this happened again to take her back.
  8. by   wondern
    Maybe her breathing was okay by then. Too bad the parental units didn't give you a heads up!

    Was she blue around the mouth? Good thing you got help there quick just in case.
    Last edit by wondern on Feb 28
  9. by   Julius Seizure
    Quote from Amethya
    Just plain compression. I thought it was weird too and I explained to the 911 operator that she has a pulse, just has abnormal breathing and she told me it's procedure and that I have to. So I just did it, and like I said everyone around me was freaking out, so I just did what I had to do. The EMTs also asked me about it and I told them the operator told me to do it, so I did it, they thought it was weird too, but still told me I did a good job and did what I was suppose to do.
    So, she must have been unresponsive I am assuming? Was she still unresponsive when EMS got there? How long did it take for her to wake up and begin acting appropriately? And what DID EMS do till she became responsive? I have so many questions!

    Good job not panicking, though, at least somebody was there to do something!
  10. by   missmollie
    No broken ribs, no issues with breathing, did cpr and she went home without being transported to the hospital? This is one tall tale.
  11. by   aprilmoss
    Did the paramedics give oxygen? One thing they have that we don't is O2 and an elder valve to force the issue.
  12. by   Dempster
    You are a hero. It may be the job, but it doesn't change your super hero status.
    I've had to climb onto the bed, straddle the pt doing CPR as he was being rushed out of surgery and into ICU. No one dies in the OR! I've broken ribs. Called an all clear not knowing my 8+ month pregnant belly was touhing the pt. Thank God for observant colleages! It's different outside of the medical setting. Family leaves the room, instead of begging and pleading and wailing. The teen fractured his skull (to put it mildly) and was paralized from the very obvious neck down. He was dead and I brought him back. My boys were in the car, one of them goes to the same school as the 16 yo girl and just barely 18 yo boy who jumped out of the car. I've had so many pts that should have been DNRs and pts with DNRs, but the entire family insists it be ignored. I do believe in miracles don't I? Ugh, I was told by the only other provider in this little mountain hospital ER that "Dead people don't sue, but famllies do." I hate ethics, but love saving someone that isn't ready or meant to go yet.

    Good for you!
  13. by   Amethya
    Quote from missmollie
    No broken ribs, no issues with breathing, did cpr and she went home without being transported to the hospital? This is one tall tale.
    I don't think I was doing it hard enough possibly, I didn't want to hurt her and I was a bit apprehensive to do it in the first place because like I said, she was breathing abnormally but had a pulse and when I told this to the 911 operator, she said I had to do it because it is procedure. So I did it as hard as I could but not so hard, because I didn't want to cause any damage, and like I said before, it happened before but we didn't do CPR last time, but I don't know why they told us to do it this time.

    You can choose not to believe me or what not, and that's fine. But it happened, and that's that.

    To the other posts to answer your questions: when they came, she was still unresponsive to us, she was in some sort of trance, but kept fainting on us. but once they gave her oxygen and checked her out, checking vitals, blood glucose, etc. , she came out of her "trance" and she was fine after a while of sitting up and talking. I didn't see much what they were doing because I was still in shock on what I just had to do and they asked me to go get her medical history and her information for them.
    Last edit by Amethya on Mar 1

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