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Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

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As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. You are reading page 18 of Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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Hi! i just passed the board exam last july 2011 and now im having difficulty in getting a job due to surplus of nurses here. I saw a job post and thy are looking for nurses with/without experience to be deployed in Riyadh, so, i went there and tried to apply. They told me that i need to take and pass the prometric exam first and it will cost me $90. If i passed then they will process my application, however, when i asked them how much will be my salary they told me that it will be only $550 plus free accomodation and the contract is for 2 years. The salary is too little amount, but im thinking that i can't even get a job here, the only options i have to practice my profession here and gain experience is to go on volunteer. Now, i really don't know what to do..do you have any advice??

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I am seriously considering a position as a Saudi nurse for a year. Does anyone know how often there are attacks on the compounds?

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This sounds like someone out to get you. They are after your $90. Genuine Saudi jobs reqire 3 yrs of experience and pay around $40000/yr. Try and look for jobs in other states.

Hi! i just passed the board exam last july 2011 and now im having difficulty in getting a job due to surplus of nurses here. I saw a job post and thy are looking for nurses with/without experience to be deployed in Riyadh, so, i went there and tried to apply. They told me that i need to take and pass the prometric exam first and it will cost me $90. If i passed then they will process my application, however, when i asked them how much will be my salary they told me that it will be only $550 plus free accomodation and the contract is for 2 years. The salary is too little amount, but im thinking that i can't even get a job here, the only options i have to practice my profession here and gain experience is to go on volunteer. Now, i really don't know what to do..do you have any advice??

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Hello Californianurse 1974,

How are you? And how are you enjoying working in Saudi Arabia. What advice would you give to a newly graduated nurse who intends to go to Saudi. I would be finishing my program May 2012, and am planning to take my NCLEX in Sept 2012. Although I have a very solid health care background from my home country, but currently living in the US doing the ABSN program. Do you think they are interested in new grads, and if yes, can you provide me with the website to get the necessary in formations. Looking forward to reading from you. Thanks.

Hello

I'm an American nurse (Cali gal) currently working in Jeddah,Saudi Arabia on a 1 year contract. To the original poster, only male doctors are allowed to bring family members with them. All others are provided single female or male studio apartment housing, and we all live on one huge complex. My apartment is very quiet. So here's the run down...

the hospital is nice

Women can't drive here, you WILL not miss it trust me lol

english speaking employees from different countries (America, India, Egypt, Austrailia, New Zealand, UK, large number from the Phillipines)

General salary is $68,000 (tax free)set by hospital, not agency

53 days of vacation per year

Single studio apartments on beautiful grounds with pool, jacuzzi, gym, nail salon, small convenience store, tennis court, swimming lessons

All utilities paid

Free shuttle buses for transport to work, shopping (16 different malls and souks)

inexpensive car service/cab available

no safety issues (this city is very laid back and cool)

its not like on CNN, its very modern, esp the malls, same stores as U.S.

nurses scuba dive ALOT here

social club offered at the hospital to book activities

we have cell phones and cable satellite

We don't have to wear our hair covered but do have to wear an abaya(robe) when not on apt complex or hospital grounds

The ratios are the same here as back home, but most of the units do primary nursing. We have to rotate shifts from day to night every 3 weeks, or you can have a shift buddy if you prefer so you can swap during rotation. I prefer day shift so when its time to rotate, I keep her day shift and she can stay on night shift permanently. We wear all white uniforms, provided by the hospital, except O.R. wears green scrubs. Most of the patients speak arabic but have a family member that speaks english, or we have a coordinator to grab to translate.

I know people think its not worth it, but trust me pocketing $70 k and not paying rent,insurance, or utilities for a year is SOOOOO WORTH IT!! My salary in California is $89k/year, but I never see it between taxes, rent, bills, etc.

Also I get to travel to nearby places like Egypt and Dubai without using my vacation time. I've made some great friends from other countries and learned alot. Most of the girls I've met here came on a one year contract but ended up staying for alot longer , anywhere from 4-10 years. If you don't like it here you always have the option to break your contract and leave, but you have to pay for your airfare home.

When you first get here, you don't go straight to work. You have classroom orientation for almost 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of floor orientation. I must say I'm not in love with primary nursing, but I guess American nurses are a bit spoiled lol. My coworkers are all friendly so I enjoy my unit. However, there is no such thing as home health, palliative, or hospice care. Well, only some of the richer families can afford home health, so you may find patients refusing to be discharged after the doctor has cleared them to go home. The government picks up the tab so the hospital lets them stay. Sometimes for years...Anyway, overall I love my experience here so far. I hope I've answered your questions with my small novel :-)

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I am a saudi nurse. I agree that many of what u mentioned are true especially regarding th eRoyal family. However, i have to correct some information. Wearing Burka is not mandatory in all reagion in Saudi Arabia even for Saud women. wearing Abaia though is necessary in most of them. Burka is the cover of the face, while Abaia is like a long dress that cover from shoulders down to the end of legs. However, in some cities, foreigners are walking everywhere without that dress but they should wear decent clothes. in eastern reagions such as Khubar, u will find hundreds of Americans and western people walking everywhere without wearing those things but with their ordinary clothes. Also in wetern province especially in Jedda , which is very close to Egypt, more freadom and no restrections even for Saudi women. In the center, there is more restriction and those religious people or (police) may interfere if they saw a women with a strange man or wearing inappropriate clothes.

Something worth to say loudly here is about the Saudi nurses. I am not defending myself but I am telling the truth and how the nursing profession has improved in the latest years. We used to have diploma graduated nurses in the past. However, in the latest 10 or so years, we have many Baccaluriate degree nurses who study 4 years in college and then spend one year of internship before they be accepted to work as nurses. I studied in King Saud bin Abdulaziz University for health sciences and the books I studied are the same as the books that are available here in the US. Lippincott, Mosby and others. Our educational syatem in this college is similar to the A,erican system and we studied in English language. After graduation, I spent 1 year of internship then another 6 months of residency program to be qualified to work in ICU.

I worked in military hospital. The rules and regulations were very strict. no delay, no abcence. u have to handle several patients and do all your work exactly the same as any other foreign nurse. After 6 months, i had to be a team leader and be responsible for the units in some days as assigned by the charge nurse. Most of the days, i didin't even have time to sit for few minutes especially when we have many admission and dischrges in few hours.

I dmitt that there are lazy nurses but this is everywhere not only in this place of the world. However, the change i have noticed over the latest years is dramatic. Nurses are working 12 hrs shifts day or nights and the rules are applied to everyone. In case of any thing wrong happens, u must fill in an incident report and be penalized. If it is a seriouse error, u might lose your job. This is what I 've learned from my experience. The new generation of nurses especially the ones who have BSN are more qualified in terms of knowledge and skills. This is not based on statistics or anything, but this is my opinion. There are some negative things, but there is also some positives. My advice before going to aycountry is to read about their culture from more than one resource. I am a Saudi nurse and I am a graduate student now at one of the most respectful school of nursing in the US, University of Pennsylvania. Do u still think Sudi nurses are lazy? if yes, how could I be approved for admission in such school? ...I just want to say, do not judge based on one experience and do not stereotype.. There are always some different stories.

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Thank you, Zainab! Welcome to Philly! I'm in nursing school at a neighboring university, and I'm considering working in Saudi Arabia, since it would be great to explore another culture and be paid for it. I'm happy to read about the freedoms women seem to have in your country, since that was a major concern of mine. Good luck at Penn!

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Just in case if you want another viewpoint, Huma Abedin, the wife of disgraced ex-rep Anthony Weiner was born in America and brought up in Saudi Arabia. She has been the PA of Hillary Clinton for years. According to her narrative, Saudi Women deck out as peacocks when they have parties. The difference is all this is done behind doors. If you were a woman who did not want to display her beauty to strange men, you would also like to dress up only when outsiders are not watching. They prefer women only parties, because they don't have to be on guard about men seeing their beauty. It is an entire different way of thinking. If you want your freedom, respect their freedom to want to be covered. Please do not be judgmental if you do not want to be judged.

It is not a perfect society, and some people would want to change the status quo, but is that not true for every society? Why do you think people are camping out on Wall Street today?

Thank you, Shah! You make really fair points, and I'm glad you're offering another perspective. You're correct that it's not fair of me to judge, but I also know little of your culture. From what I read in that book, I was very disturbed by what seemed to be very oppressive to women, but the other posts I've read on here presented a very different view of Saudi Arabia. I hope I get to visit your country one day!

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Saudi Arabia is good for those who are reserved and only thinks of making and saving money. On the other hand if you are little advanced and would like to enjoy life along with your career, then Saudi Arabia is not the perfect place for you..

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Rohan8 has 3 years experience and works as a RN.

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Are there oppertunities for male nurses there? Are men and women allowed to hang out with eachother?

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Rohan8 has 3 years experience and works as a RN.

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Honestly folks if the money and lack of rent is the biggest draw to Saudi you might as well just look into a contract with IHS. You can make the same ammount and work out a deal to have housing for free. Income tax would still be an issue though.

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Thanks for sharing...this story brings new mean to the phrase " theres No place like home"...lol

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